I’d even argue Catholicism has been on a steady progressive trend for half a century. From Vatican 2 to lay ministers to restructuring churches to improve openness to pope Francis now pope Leo. They’re disproving the idea that the Overton window always shifts right. For the church, the “new normal” has been shifting left

Of course if this is the church after 50 years of progressive progress, it’s hard to imaging how conservative it must have been before

Doubt it. If so he could clearly figure it out from context. He was being pedantic and argumentative

Also he’s a woke elitist libtard: how dare he know multiple languages well enough to give a speech in them

all Protestant religions do not accept the pope as leader, that’s the basic definition. They all broke off from Catholicism by disagreeing with something but usually it boiled down to not following the pope. Whether it was a king who wanted to divorce and remarry at will or a king who wanted to control his country or an alternate pope.

It’s clearly divided into an older section and a newer section, and the basic definition of Christian is the newer section defining empathy, caring, accepting of all the people. Sure there’s still some effed up stuff but what do you want from a 1500 year old book: the basic message of the new part is love

It’s more accurate to say these people are not Christian even if the use the name. They do not follow the teachings they proclaim, and have more in common with the Pharisees, the oppressors

And yet that’s also not the same. Yes, many impoverished countries are stuck in a cycle of poverty by overpopulation and too high a birth rate. Yes, helping them control that goes a long way toward helping them to help themselves. No, not eugenics

Yep. Equally evil.

• One guy already donates $100B and pledging most of his fortune
• other guy a Nazi who not only makes no donations despite being at times richest person on the planet, but leveraged his wealth to end government programs assisting the less fortunate both in the us and globally

I can see how these look the same. /s

Yeah this just seems like a troll or argument for the sake of argument. It’s just too preposterous an argument

Did Melon discover Lemmy?

Still the wrong conversation. Yes he was appropriately villainized for anticompetitive behavior running Microsoft, accumulating excessive wealth at the expense of many others, but come on ……

I have no issues with sending $7B to Africa, but that sure seems like something the people should agree upon first,

Just no. His philanthropy, his wealth. His choice.

But I’m with you on inadequate taxation for the wealthy, and that we have a responsibility as a country to help the less privileged of humanity, and should not just assume someone’s personal largesse.

Wrong place for “both sides the same”. Sure, any of us could do more, and billionaires could do a lot more, but you’re equating a Nazi cutting entire government programs to aid the most vulnerable here and abroad, with a billionaire who has donated a significant portion of his personal wealth to aid humanity, including eradicating diseases

That’s awfully absolutist of you not seeing the huge difference in scale, the blatant ignoring of checks and balances, states rights, and the resulting constitutional crisis. Never before have so many government leaders so blatantly committed so many acts of corruption while holding themselves above the law. Never before have we so intentionally cut so many services and intentionally disrupted the economy so much. Never before have we done so much harm to the US’s stature in the world, damaged our future so much. Previous attempts to ruin education for religious or other malicious reasons have been mostly local, never before has there been such an attempt to control education across the board, everywhere, at every level