Another complaint — for which there was no contact information provided — alleged that “calendar girls” parties at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago involved genital measurements for children.

“Jeffrey Epstein would bring the children in and trump would auction them off. He measured the children’s vulva and vaginas by entering a finger and rated the children on tightness,” the complaint reads.

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    The full complaint is here, and anyone can read it.

    It’s worth noting that this allegation also says that Elon Musk and Trump’s children were there at the time, and that the complaint was made anonymously 4 months before the 2020 election.

    The man is a monster, but have an ounce of fucking sense, please.

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        My opinion of him didn’t change, because I believe it’s not a credible allegation.

        But when real reports come to light and people can point at this and say “yeah, but they also spread this bullshit, you can’t trust liberals”, it starts to matter.

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    Not too wild when you know who they speak of. As amoral and narcissistic as trump is, nobody should be at all shocked at his obvious depravity

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      A good rule is: the stuff we know is almost always just scratching the surface of how bad it actually is. This applies to specific people, countries and much of history.

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      You have to realize, someone who views life as a transaction, is a malignant narcissist, and has wealth is capable of the WORST of depravities a human can commit. I had a father like him and my sisters had to lock their doors to their rooms despite him demanding and even breaking through a door once. He liked to go to the bathroom when they showered. That’s just what /I/ know of.

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        The problem is that I’m not capable of imagining the depravities that keep happening before I hear about them.

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      Look, I think he’s a piece of shit. But, I also think we shouldn’t judge anybody based on anonymous accusations phoned into a tip line. I mean, can you imagine the kinds of nonsense MAGA folks are constantly phoning into tip lines about every prominent democrat?

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        I don’t think Epstein related accused deserve the benefit of the doubt anymore. Too much has been corroborated, and they’ve worked too hard to bury it/cover it all up.

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          Look, the kind of people who show up in Epstein’s files are the kind that deserve zero sympathy. They’re the kinds of ultra-rich people who should be lined up for the guillotine just because of their obscene wealth hoards, even if they had nothing to do with child sex abuse.

          But, just look at the phenomenon of SWATting. People phone in a malicious tip to the police in the hope that they kick down someone’s door. In addition to malicious people, a tip line is going to get people having schizophrenic episodes, people suffering carbon monoxide poisoning, etc.

          To me, these allegations seem about as likely as there being a secret basement at Comet Ping Pong pizzeria where the elites were draining children of their adrenachrome. And, I’d really like it if my side didn’t go all Q-Anon and start believing every possible rumour just because it makes someone they hate look bad.

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    If there’s evidence to convict him of these crimes then do it. Biden’s team had access to all of this, why didn’t they do anything? Why wasn’t all of this released before the last election?

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      Because Merrick Garland was the AG and Biden believed in an impartial DOJ. I know Trump directs the DOJ to do his bidding, but there was a time when that wasn’t normal.

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        Allowing the doj to fail in their statutory duty is not noble, it’s a dereliction of duty. Get off Biden’s dick, he failed us. Unless you want to be ruled by republicans because these dems won’t take the country back. Jesus Christ.

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        Yeah, just add this to the laundry list of times the Democrats made the noble choice to do nothing.

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      Let me lead by saying I 100% think Trump is a pedo fuck and deserves to rot in jail.

      But the reason why there isn’t talk about an actual conviction from the most sensationalist stuff in the Epstein files is that the most sensationalist stuff all comes from tips or reports given to the FBI or other law enforcement. They haven’t been proven. Nobody wants to hear that because it’s less exciting than reading a headline about how Trump is measuring child vaginas with his finger. It only takes a little bit more effort (actually reading articles rather than headlines) to find out that most of this stuff isn’t in a situation where it could be used in court to convict him currently.

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      This old tired republitard line that keeps getting repeated is so braindead:

      1. Biden didn’t order the DOJ around like the orange clown does.
      2. Maxwell’s case was still active.
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        Sounds like they probably should have been a little bossier. This is i credibly serious stuff and they just let it move at a snail’s pace? And what, it was so important and they were so sure they’d win the next election? The next election where they had momentum, realized it was because of progressive messaging and appealing to younger voters, and then tanked the whole thing with center-right branding because they haye winning?

        No matter how you slice it it was weak bullshit.

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          It’s exactly because it’s serious that Biden tried to do everything in the most “by the book” fashion, so that claims of partisanship could hold no water. But voters are retarded.

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            How Noble! To allow fascists to seize control and end the republic in all but name!

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              The main group who “allowed” this is the braindead electorate. But yes, proper procedure in a situation that serious matters in a real democracy, you dismissive clown.

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          In principle, the Dept of Justice is meant to be completely independent of the White House. The point is to have a federal entity concerned with the law over politics. If they are failing to actually prosecute the law, then a change in leadership is needed, but as far as which specific cases to.pursuw and how, that should be separate from whichever person/party is in power.

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            Bullshit, the president appoints the attorney general, and can fire the attorney general. GTFO with your excusing, your passing the buck for these failures. Because the people that put them there are still in charge ready to do it again.

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      It’s pretty fucking clear the only difference between the dems and republicans is the stickers they put on the hellfire missiles they use to bomb children’s hospitals in the middle east.

      Hello Kitty or hot rod flames.

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        We still running this dogshit “both sides the same” line after this whole clown show of a year with gestapo murdering people on the streets? Dumbass

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          Both sides are evil and self-serving.

          The entire purpose of the democrat party is to make sure nobody gets elected that will raise taxes on the ruling class.

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            Or reverses the license they’ve given themselves over the decades. All stemming from the 1971 Business Roundtable, the first iteration of the long game to bugger democracy.

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            Wow, what a detailed and nuanced analysis. That blanket statement sure looks big and warm.

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          My hope for the Democratic party died last year. I was a “vote blue no matter who” believe it or not. That was until I realized they couldn’t give two shits about the very horrors you describe. So no, this time it’s different.

          Image what they could do if they just fucking stood their ground or matched their energy.

          Only a dumbass would think the dems need some more votes to start taking action. It’s fucking pathetic. Why are you not demanding more from our elected officials? They known they don’t need to earn your vote.

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            What they could do? When the country gave republitards full control of all branches of government? lol go ahead and describe what “matching their energy” looks like in that situation. You know which two sides are the same? The clowns who voted for Trump and the clowns who didn’t bother voting for Kamala, both equal contributors to the current clown show. Because falling for Qanon conspiracies or “Killer Kamala” memes is just the same retardation in my book.

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              Oh I voted for Kamala. Every single Republican involved in this shit needs to be handcuffed and sentenced to life in prison for high treason. Anything less is just support for these fuckheads. Sorry you had to find out you’re a fascist traitor this way.

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                I voted democratic too, but also work to get electable candidates that meet the moment. Your attitude is passing the buck for controlled opposition designed to fail. What is the definition of stupid? Doing the same thing and expecting different results? Grow a fucking spine.

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    President Donald Trump arrives for the premiere of first lady Melania Trump’s movie “Melania” at The John F. Kennedy Memorial Center For The Performing Arts

    That’s right, call it by it’s LEGAL name! This movie… will flop… these fuckin people are absolutely the dumbest.

    Trump is undeniably a pedophile rapist piece of shit.

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      It already has flopped. The presale for tickets were some of the lowest in history. Karma can be quite a beautiful thing.

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          It was a bribe, but they still made a movie, and they still put that movie in theatres. It’s still going to be embarrassing if nobody sees the movie. There are reports of movie theatres where there are 3-4 people in the audience, and every one of them is being paid to be there because they have to write a review of the movie.

          They could have paid Melania for her life rights, pretended to make a movie, and then not released it, or made it streaming-only, making some excuse about protesters, the safety of the theatre goers, etc. Instead they actually put it out into the world and invited the kind of ridicule it deserves.

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    The article makes it clear these are not substantiated claims.

    It should be noted that these complaints are uncorroborated tips to the FBI, and the existence of those tips does not indicate eventual credibility.

    Things may be released to muddy the waters. Trump is a pedo and rapist, but please keep in mind that not everything reported to the FBI is true. Believe whatever you want, but please don’t get caught up in the most scandalous details. Any abuse is disgusting. Just sticking to what identified victims have publicly stated should be enough for him to be radioactive. Please remember that if anything comes out disputing these reported claims.

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      It reminds me of how UFO people like to point to leaked emails sent to John Podesta as proof of a UFO coverup.

      Trump is a shitbag, and I’m not defending him. But no one should run with unsubstantiated claims. It’s liable to backfire and give the shitheads talking points.

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      Worth noting that false reports to FBI are illegal and is punished by 5 years in federal prison

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      If I’ve learned one thing about Trump, it’s that as bad as you think he is, he ALWAYS turns out to be much worse. These allegations may sound outlandish, but Outlandish is this psychopath’s middle name.

      I’m willing to believe anything about him at this point. I’m likely to be right more often than wrong.

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        He lives by the money. He has no limit on his desires and has the money to get them. Some folks just don’t care to control themselves.

        It’s fucking sad that one day Aliens might look at our history and see a time when we were literally run by child rapists. Like holy fuck that will be embarrassing if we exist long enough to be apart of some federation.

        “Humans? Didn’t you lot have a problem with your leaders preying on your young?”

        Like I get, it’s always been a problem honestly in our history of leaders and powerful folks. But today? With all the evidence and shit…idk definitely think this will be a moment in the annals of human history talked about way in the future if we make it.

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    “Wild” ?!??! It’s horrifying fuck the media and these headlines. Wake me up when it’s guillotine time.

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      It’s time to raise the boards . . . .

      It’s time to sharpen blades we just can’t take it anymore . . . .

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    please end pedo, rapist patriarchy capitalism asap. this is a cruel world as long as these power issues are not fully dismantled.

    to all of those who haven’t read much on how patriarchy and capitalism go hand in hand I am begging you to inform yourself.

    not asking anyone to become a feminist. but I noticed people act all surprised when men in power with severe personality disorders use their power to rape and torture the poor and weak.

    this is and has been a systemic issue for a very long time and being informed on this fully can help us create a better world.

    stay informed I love you humans.

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      Everyone should “become a feminist” though, if they aren’t…

      If someone is of the false belief propogated by those in power that “feminism” has to do with female superiority, or something, they should be quickly disabused of that asinine psyop.

      To be a feminist is simply acknowledging patriarchal power structures and wanting equality among genders.

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        tbh yes. I have made the experience that many are afraid of the word itself / feeling threatened and thinking of it as female superiority. I ultimately agree with you here