Honestly, you should’ve just known to not engage. Nothing productive will ever come out of it. That troll was already banned a long time ago, why dredge this back up?
LITERALLLYYYYYY like get over ittttt!
OP has actively said dozens of times they don’t intend to participate in any LBZ community ever again and has blocked the instance. Whether the rule is “good” or not aside, it’s so cringe of OP to be butthurt about it.
Honestly, you should’ve just known to not engage. Nothing productive will ever come out of it. That troll was already banned a long time ago, why dredge this back up?
Because the issue of 196 came up, and it was said that the only people who were driven off of Blahaj were nasty transphobes. I pointed out that comments were removed and people were banned for comments as mild as “Dragons don’t exist” or “I disagree with this.”
YDI
You were banned by Ada because you keep dying on the hill of whether Drag’s pronouns should be respected or not based on dragons being fictional creatures that don’t exist in real life. This is the thread that got you banned: https://lemmy.world/comment/15410416
Drag was very obviously a troll and deserved to be called out for constant shit-stirring, but it’s not up to you or anyone else to decide whether their pronouns should be respected or not regardless if it’s a troll. Especially in an instance designed to provide a safe space for LGBTQ+ folk. Making such a big deal out of Drag’s neopronouns not only distracted people from the very real problems Drag was causing with their shitty behaviour, but also made people rush to Drag’s defense because it made them look like a victim rather than the instigator of drama and harassment they really were. You can call someone out for being shitty without resorting to bigotry, whether you recognize it as such or not.
Of course, Drag’s gone now (well, until they make yet another alt) so this doesn’t really matter anymore, but your continued gatekeeping of their pronouns is what ultimately led to your ban. This wasn’t just a random ban, you brought it on yourself. Pick better battles next time.
You were told that’s not the way to deal with trolls once, twice, a hundred times. Maybe listen to trans people about the kind of language they do and don’t want spewing everywhere in their communities next time. Your white-knighting crash out is honestly embarrassing, but the fact that you still refuse to listen to trans people about what makes toxic the space they made for themselves to be comfortable and safe for once on the internet is frankly worse.
Block. Report. Disengage. It’s fucking simple. YDI.
Thanks and utmost respect to Ada. I am so over this and so sorry people are like this.
You were told that’s not the way to deal with trolls once, twice, a hundred times. Maybe listen to trans people about the kind of language they do and don’t want spewing everywhere in their communities next time.
Okay.
You want to point out where I was ‘spewing’ anything in any of Ada’s communities in the period just before this ban?
Go ahead.
It’s not because you said “comms” to mean something other than “communications”?
Communities
You’re still mad about this? YDI.
I don’t misgender you when you say something stupid, because I don’t misgender anyone for being stupid. My girlfriend held me emotionally hostage for the final 3 years of our relationship, and I don’t misgender her despite me helping her come to terms with being trans and helping her transition.
I get it Pug, you’re just really wanting to do something dehumanizing to someone you don’t like. I don’t like Drag, and I also don’t like Grail. You know what I did? I blocked them both. I didn’t go “well sure you identify as that, but fuck you I don’t wanna bother with any of that.”
Weird how no one tries to argue for the right to deadname or misgender horrid people who’ve committe actual horrid actions, but someone was a dick on the internet? “I NEED TO NOT HAVE MY FREEZE PEACH REMOVED TO CALL SOMEONE SOMETHING THEY AREN’T”
Pug, you’re a smart person. I know you are. You have written about complex topics decently well to where I can understand it. I don’t think you’re somehow a secret transphobe, you just have a blind spot you can get a better mirror to have an introspection at. I’ve had my own issues with neopronouns that I am still working on myself. A friend of mine uses it/its pronouns, and I have a hard time to use it when speaking, but not in text. I’ve also had biases with other statuses of people they can’t control, such as plural/systems.
How many months have you been hung up about Drag? It’s more than your time could have been spent with something better about yourself or those around you.
You’ve been told repeatedly by Ada and other admins “Stop it, you have no proof they’re lying about their pronouns, you can block and move on.” and you kept going. If the shoe was on the other foot where a Tankie constantly bothered you, you’d advocate for them to be banned from their instance/places you frequent.
At some point Pug, you have to learn to be better. You’ve had months. It takes time to learn better, no one is perfect out of the womb. But I don’t think you are trying to learn, you’re just drawing a line in the sand of “Well I can agree with everything about queer people but these queer people, they bother me.”
I get it Pug, you’re just really wanting to do something dehumanizing to someone you don’t like.
Uh, is that what I want? Drag is incidental to this at most.
How many months have you been hung up about Drag? It’s more than your time could have been spent with something better about yourself or those around you.
Again, Drag is incidental to this at most. If you want to make this an issue of my personal feelings, it would be far more correct to say it’s about my personal feelings on Blahaj and how the admins handled the entire situation. I would argue that my personal feelings on the situation certainly make me more acerbic, but that the fundamental argument is still about questions of principle, and I don’t appreciate when I get tarred as a transphobe for daring to have any sort of disagreement and leaving Blahaj because of it.
You’ve been told repeatedly by Ada and other admins “Stop it, you have no proof they’re lying about their pronouns, you can block and move on.” and you kept going.
What the fuck are you talking about?
At some point Pug, you have to learn to be better. You’ve had months. It takes time to learn better, no one is perfect out of the womb. But I don’t think you are trying to learn, you’re just drawing a line in the sand of “Well I can agree with everything about queer people but these queer people, they bother me.”
Man, all of this effort you’re going through to defend an indefensible position is insanity. The idea that no gender can ever be questioned under any circumstances is not an affirmation of anyone’s gender; it is a denial that gender means anything at all.
Uh, is that what I want? Drag is incidental to this at most.
Then why are you still crying about this online drama after months? It’s like if I constantly complained about an internet argument on reddit that happened in October of 2024. “I’m not bothered by it, I just gotta keep posting about how much I’m not bothered by it!”
Again, Drag is incidental to this at most. If you want to make this an issue of my personal feelings, it would be far more correct to say it’s about my personal feelings on Blahaj and how the admins handled the entire situation. I would argue that my personal feelings on the situation certainly make me more acerbic, but that the fundamental argument is still about questions of principle, and I don’t appreciate when I get tarred as a transphobe for daring to have any sort of disagreement and leaving Blahaj because of it.
“Sure I don’t listen to the trans admin, I don’t listen to the trans people across several instances, I don’t listen to any trans people telling me I’m wrong, but I’m actually an ally!”
Hey guess what, I have disagreed with people and I’m not called a transphobe when I do. Or racist. Or sexist. Or other things. This just reminds me of “It’s odd how da liburals won’t let me say something, they always call me racist when I call out Obummer!”
What the fuck are you talking about?
The fact that Ada and others have given you time to learn from mistakes? Does time not exist to you and that’s why you think complaining about one user for weeks is considered normal? Am I mistaking you for another PugJesus from lemmy.world who has had this issue pop up before, not just with Drag?
Man, all of this effort you’re going through to defend an indefensible position is insanity. The idea that no gender can ever be questioned under any circumstances is not an affirmation of anyone’s gender; it is a denial that gender means anything at all.
I’m personally an AMAB masc enby. I present masculine, but I am curious about if I am trans or not. I don’t know if I am perfect for talking about gender, but lemme try to also state something. I have trans friends, enby friends, and agender friends. To all of them, how they express their self is important. That is often gender, sometime it’s a lack of gender.
I have a good friend who’s name is Bugs, pronouns are it/its. I personally have a difficult time wrapping my tongue around it in casual conversation without personally plotting the sentence ahead of time. Bugs has said that it enjoys the fact that it/its makes it feel inhumane, because it never felt human. It relates to Data from Star Trek, non-human but made in the image of humans. The fact that Bugs wants the it/its pronouns is good enough for me. I don’t go “Well why should I do that? Give me proof you actually want that.”
I don’t personally think gender is a hard stance on anything, the common ideas of gender expression/identity were “solidified” in the Victorian era. There’s been dozens of non-western gender identities that don’t fit into or conform into our idea of masculine/feminine/non-binary. For some trans people, being hyper-feminine is important. For some trans people, being hyper-masculine is important. Pastels and pink, flannel and grilling.
But I also have a trans masculine friend who is exclusively He/him, named himself Incubus, and has a feminine voice, enjoys pastels and pink, browses Tumblr, does a lot of “feminine” things but doesn’t give a shit that it is, due to those things make him happy.
I personally don’t care what someone does if it makes them happy unless it involves a non-consenting adult. Drag involved non-consenting adults by harassing people. Drag is a massive fucking asshole. I will not defend Drag harassing others, and you can check my profile. But someone’s actions aren’t an excuse to just go “Well I’ve decided that since X thing bothers me, I don’t wanna do the X thing.”
I don’t understand why you just refuse to let go of Drag, and this in general. Again, Pug, you are a smart person. I don’t consider you an enemy to me. I consider you to have faults, like I probably do and I’m not aware of them. My friends have faults, both cis and trans and enby. But I do expect adults to eventually let go of online drama that doesn’t affect them. As you yourself have said you had little to no interaction with Drag.
You can let it go, not even learning better. Just move on. You aren’t.
It’s blahaj zone, at this point it’s old news that they would literally welcome a person in blackface acting a caricature of a slave into a racially diverse community. They believe you hate mockeries of minorities because you hate minorities. I’m 🤏 very close to blocking the whole instance. So counterproductive.
Dragons aren’t even real. An occupation, hobby, or sexual preference isn’t a gender identity. First and second person pronouns aren’t misgendering. So stupid how long that has went on. I’d get banned from the whole instance for this paragraph. Hey guess what, lines need to be drawn, and those who cross it should be removed. Would you want a Minecraft fan calling their Minecraft enjoyment a mental disorder a prominent figure in a community for people with mental disorders? Call out the fakers and ban them ffs. Yes, you can fake being transgender. For starters, you can’t fucking transition into a dragon rider.
Edit: noticed more pictures on this post. Didn’t dragonfucker literally harass draconicneo with porn, nudes, death threats, and suicide encouragement like? Why is draconicneo defending this good for nothing bully who never grew up? The gate should be kept to exclude offensive caricatures and fakers used to make minorities look bad. Hey guess what, they exist.
Ugh what’s next, defending actual cis men playing in women’s sports to win more and going in the women’s restroom to rape people? Right, calling that out would be gatekeeping too huh? Yeah, that’ll definitely have less people side with transphobic politicians. I hope blahaj does not get big like bluesky, they are literally setting LGBT rights wayyyy back to nazi germany at this point.
