• SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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    11 hours ago

    They are traitors. Just about every single establishment democrat is enabling the Trump Regime to loot America on their behalf.

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    11 hours ago

    Remember that these people have now aided and abetted the murders of Nicole Good, Alex Jeffey Pretti, and countless others not caught on video.

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    You guys ever notice how it’s always the democrats that break rank but never the republicans?

    It’s also always just enough democrats to make sure republicans always get what they want.

    Why people keep voting for them is beyond me. They must be stupid or something.

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      The Blue Dogs (the group that voted for ice funding) is the same group of dems that thwarted Bill Clinton.

      It’s all kayfabe, it’s the squared circle. Whenever actual change is on the menu, like the public option with Obama care, exactly enough dems will turn to make it not happen, reliably.

      How many is the super majority? Add 2 and that’s how many dems will show up to stop progress.

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      13 hours ago

      You guys ever notice how it’s always the democrats that break rank but never the republicans?

      Massie’s been in full revolt for months now. And we’ve had perennial haters in the GOP going back to John McCain and Ron Paul. And the Tea Party Caucus was a big reason why the GOP couldn’t pick a new House Speaker for nearly a month. These opponents tend to be Libertarian flavored, and tend to undermine Neocon efforts to spend money at the risk of raising taxes

      The loathsome Blue Dog Caucus are an organized conservative opposition within the liberal party. It consistently sabotages party priorities while funneling enormous sums of corporate money into leadership races.

      Both exist to benefit corporate interests.

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        If they really were in opposition to the actual goals of the party, they would not retain influential positions within it.

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      It’s because both parties are owned by the same Israeli lobby and the Zionist tech bro oligarchs. It’s not even a conspiracy it’s easily verifiable. Epstein and Gizzline worked for Israel to collect blackmail for Israel. We pay for Israeli’s to have universal healthcare, free college and a $400 monthly payment per child until they turn 18 but those things are evil and “communist” here. We the American taxpayers pay hundreds of billions for this stuff while Americans die and go into debt for sickness. Israel is a hostile foreign power do friends blackmail their allies? https://www.trackaipac.com/congress https://wonderisrael.com/monthly-stipend-for-a-jewish-kid/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Israel

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      Who should we vote for otherwise? Every other option leads to Republicans staying in power, and they are the ones actually doing it.

      Don’t vote? That’s fewer votes the Republicans need to win, so they stay in power.

      Vote third party? That splits the opposition vote, and Republicans stay in power.

      And no, neither of those choices “teach the Democrats a lesson.” It just drives them to go to the people who do vote, who are more right wing, so it drives everything further right.

      You want a more left wing party? Show them that the left votes and our votes have value.

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        Democrats don’t care about your vote, that should have been obvious during Harris’s campaign while they focused on the right wing vote.

        That splits the opposition vote

        Democrats are not the opposition, they are the enablers of fascism, they are complicit in everything happening right now.

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        So we can have double-tap Obama and Genocide Joe? JFC dude, we deserve better

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      Trump straight pardoned Henry Cueller, the ringleader. He was caught dead to rights taking bribes from foreign officials and has functionally flipped teams in exchange for clemency.

      Incidentally, Jefferies reinstated Cueller as senior Dem on the Appropriations Committee. He’ll be the chairman if Dems retake the House this year.

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    I love that this article makes funding ICE the fault of the Democrats, ignoring the fact that they are a minority. And the people in the comments here are eating it up.

    Do I think the Democrats have the good of the American people in mind? No. Do I think this article has successfully manipulated people into mentally shifting the blame, if momentarily, to the wrong party? Fuckin’ oath!

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      Bullshit. The Republicans are the fascists in power. Being angry at them is the default, nothing to say. The Democrats can be either resisting or enabling. People have every fucking right to be mad at the enablers who should be resisting.

      Your comment is the equivalent of saying “yea the crime in my city is caused by criminals and corrupt cops, but it’s mostly the criminals, so look why are you eating up the propaganda that you should be mad at the police?”.

      As non-maga American voters you guys need to be holding your enabler Democrats to account. We, the rest of the world, know the Republicans are beyond your control. Your fucking Democrats though? That’s on you.

      Edit, here: https://youtu.be/1PwmiG7ABl0

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        Seven House Democrats voted for the ICE bill after minority leader Jeffries decided Dems couldn’t obstruct the vote and the bill was certain to pass. Of course, this was a Republican bill which Republicans all voted for, but that doesn’t matter to these horseshoe left ideologues. They’re all in with the GOP, because the GOP sprays accelerationist fire onto the government never mind the damage to peoples’ lives.

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      Dems have approved record funding for ICE every single year for the past 25 years. Dems can stop this anytime they want.

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      Bernie’s been in politics for decades, and how dare he’s not done anything about this! I don’t care if he’s in the minority and by definition the country is conservative but why the hell did we just vote him in? He’s really just Republican light!

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        Bernie is voting against these policies and the other democrats for them, just enough to get it passed always. Just like when the government was shut down and the Republicans were wildly unpopular, Bernie voted no, the other democrats “minority that can’t do anything” voted yes and we got healthcare cuts.

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    It’d be great to primary every single democratic congressperson. I’m sure there are good ones. But it’s time for wholesale change. Make them fear the electorate.

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      In Denmark we have 11 parties that have qualified to join the elections last time.

      It’s no big deal

      Although it’s not the one with the most votes that wins. The winner needs to have a minimum of seats and if not, they need to make a joint administration with other parties to sum up to the minimum number of seats

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        Your government is fundamentally different than ours. Given 2 large entrenched parties which are nearly equal in a system which is winner take all at every stage of the game any third party which gets any substantial portion of the vote splits the vote with whatever party it is most like ensuring its opposition wins.

        EG imagine you wanted to grow say the green party in given district which is 51% Dem 49% Republican. If it were to wildly successful it would need to grow from 1% to a plurality organically probably over several or even many election seasons. It is unlikely to get many Republican votes because Republicans have solidarity and its positions are substantially different so by the time the green party has grown to 3% of the vote its throwing every election to the Republicans. This continues to be true at 30% because 90% of its votes come from the left. At some point you would reach changeover and become the defacto left wing party but by that time you will have found the state has gerrymandered your district to the point where you can’t win and all the money essentially millions of dollars in legal bribes is still flowing to the now minority party.

        This is literally impossible to fix at the ballot box by people voting for third parties. This is why for example the green party has existed for 40 years and in all that time has never elected anyone to federal office and has in only a handful of cases held a state office wherein they run and stay green.

        The US system is designed to make this impractical and it has only become more so with intensely parties making getting votes from both sides increasingly ridiculous. Anyone you would want to elect is going to have to take a stand against essentially the American nazi party in power now.

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          We didn’t change to this right after being Vikings… systems can and should change with time.

          We’ve already seen major changes in the way politics work in the USA, just within the last 50 years.

          Party elites lost control when they were replaced by primaries

          Campaign finance rules were rewritten by the courts changing who funds them

          Gerrymandering was effectively legalized as a “political question”

          None of this was inevitable. It happened because laws, court rulings, party rules, and public pressure changed.

          So when people say “the system is broken and can’t be fixed,” history says otherwise

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      We have 2 entrenched parties. The Republicans have about half the vote. If we fracture the vote on the left even a little bit then we lose. EG for example suppose we WOULD win with 51% of the vote suppose we convince 90% of the would be democrats to vote green.

      The vote is now 45.9 Green 5.1 Dem 49% Republican aaaaand we now lose for the next 100 years. This is actually the optimistic case. Even if you get a green candidate who satisfies literally everyone on the left some will KNOW this can’t fuckin work and yell at the defectors and some will dislike anything left of the dems and refuse to move so you probably get closer to 26% one and 25% the other. If carried out broadly enough you would hand an unstoppable super majority to the other side which they will use to fix it so your vote is suppressed forever.

      You can’t just vote third party you have to first reform the system. The most basic plausible move is instant runoff or something similar at the state level.