Clerics should be carefully marginalized from political power, but the way you’re expressing and conceptualizing that necessity is the worst possible way to go about it when it comes to the region
If you ever in a million years want socialism to even remotely have a fringe presence in the muslim world then you best drop this nonsense quick and in a hurry
The muslim world is not the west with its slow history of secular anticlericalism born from the fractures of Christian polities, literally the ONLY THING keeping a billion muslims from hoisting the sickle and hammer is the successful Saudi-led propaganda victory that tied militant atheism to communism in the minds of practically every muslim
Anti-colonial, anti-western bloc of people, open to wealth redistribution - perfect for communism.
But, they are deeply religious, and western and soviet thinking on how to deal with that will result in the same defeats we have seen time and time again throughout MENA.
It’s incredibly disheartening that even after all these decades, examination of WHY socialism failed so utterly in MENA still isn’t given top priority, no subconsciously everyone just assumes the machiavellian supermen of the west deemed MENA socialism to fall, and it fell, just like that, cause they used religion like a pokemon, instead of clocking it was a carefully crafted subversion of proto-socialist currents within deeply religious communities
The irony is that this is one of the easiest to solve dilemmas in socialist history, an adaptation and correction that barely take 10 mins to conceive of; “capitalism is destroying Islam, politics corrupts religion”, wow how difficult was that
Western Marxists can’t stop being Reddit atheists. China already gave us the blueprint: keep the religion, control the clergy, liquidate those who refuse to toe the party line.
Why should socialists liquidate the Roman Catholic church when it’s much more profitable to seize control of its institutions?
Clerics should be carefully marginalized from political power, but the way you’re expressing and conceptualizing that necessity is the worst possible way to go about it when it comes to the region
If you ever in a million years want socialism to even remotely have a fringe presence in the muslim world then you best drop this nonsense quick and in a hurry
The muslim world is not the west with its slow history of secular anticlericalism born from the fractures of Christian polities, literally the ONLY THING keeping a billion muslims from hoisting the sickle and hammer is the successful Saudi-led propaganda victory that tied militant atheism to communism in the minds of practically every muslim
Exactly.
Anti-colonial, anti-western bloc of people, open to wealth redistribution - perfect for communism.
But, they are deeply religious, and western and soviet thinking on how to deal with that will result in the same defeats we have seen time and time again throughout MENA.
It’s incredibly disheartening that even after all these decades, examination of WHY socialism failed so utterly in MENA still isn’t given top priority, no subconsciously everyone just assumes the machiavellian supermen of the west deemed MENA socialism to fall, and it fell, just like that, cause they used religion like a pokemon, instead of clocking it was a carefully crafted subversion of proto-socialist currents within deeply religious communities
The irony is that this is one of the easiest to solve dilemmas in socialist history, an adaptation and correction that barely take 10 mins to conceive of; “capitalism is destroying Islam, politics corrupts religion”, wow how difficult was that
This is an important failure too, as it contributed to the death of the USSR - ala Afghanistan.
Western Marxists can’t stop being Reddit atheists. China already gave us the blueprint: keep the religion, control the clergy, liquidate those who refuse to toe the party line.
Why should socialists liquidate the Roman Catholic church when it’s much more profitable to seize control of its institutions?