Within a single week in February, several attacks against enlistment offices and personnel in Ukraine took place, resulting in injuries among both military and civilians. The most striking was the murder of an enlistment officer at a gas station in Poltava Oblast.
A man killed the officer during an attempt
Does Russia give any of them a chance to repatriate to Russia at all? I’m assuming not for espionage/sabotage reasons, but it seems bad if they’re getting POWed and then exchanged back to a fascist Ukraine at some point.
I am pretty sure defectors are exempt from POW exchanges. Otherwise you would never be getting more defectors, you want to incentivize defections and desertions.
warning though, the second guy they interview is a homophobe, a “muh Slavic values are different” guy. The older guy, the one who briefly served in the Red Army by contrast was clearly disillusioned by serving with Azov and seeing them sieg heil and shit. Like one’s cultural aversion is pride parades, the other’s aversion is the literal fascists.
Third guy mentions the option of prisoner exchange which he chose not to do and convinced others that they could not trust the Ukrainian government to make a deal for them. Third guy is really sympathetic, he is from the Donbas and talks about his commanding officers calling him and the local population slurs to their faces. He left cause he saw the “humanity” within the Ukrainian army, ie he was treated as less human by his own superior officers.
Effectively the officer corps is from Lviv and the west, and they somehow think their men will follow them like beasts of burden even as they denigrate their ethnic and linguistic background.
Effectively the officer corps is from Lviv and the west, and they somehow think their men will follow them like beasts of burden even as they denigrate their ethnic and linguistic background.
They did this in 2014 already, they literally send units from Donbas to massacre their relatives in Donbas. Turned out to be a mistake since said units defected and formed the core of DPR and LPR militias.
Russia gave citizenship on location basis, not on ethnicity basis. So a lot of ethnic Ukrainians from Russian-controlled areas got citizenship, while ethnic Russians from the rest of Ukraine don’t get preferential treatment.
Does Russia give any of them a chance to repatriate to Russia at all? I’m assuming not for espionage/sabotage reasons, but it seems bad if they’re getting POWed and then exchanged back to a fascist Ukraine at some point.
I am pretty sure defectors are exempt from POW exchanges. Otherwise you would never be getting more defectors, you want to incentivize defections and desertions.
At least per Patrick Lancaster’s interviews, some of them join the Russian army https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGBc6Pza3G8
warning though, the second guy they interview is a homophobe, a “muh Slavic values are different” guy. The older guy, the one who briefly served in the Red Army by contrast was clearly disillusioned by serving with Azov and seeing them sieg heil and shit. Like one’s cultural aversion is pride parades, the other’s aversion is the literal fascists.
Third guy mentions the option of prisoner exchange which he chose not to do and convinced others that they could not trust the Ukrainian government to make a deal for them. Third guy is really sympathetic, he is from the Donbas and talks about his commanding officers calling him and the local population slurs to their faces. He left cause he saw the “humanity” within the Ukrainian army, ie he was treated as less human by his own superior officers.
Effectively the officer corps is from Lviv and the west, and they somehow think their men will follow them like beasts of burden even as they denigrate their ethnic and linguistic background.
They did this in 2014 already, they literally send units from Donbas to massacre their relatives in Donbas. Turned out to be a mistake since said units defected and formed the core of DPR and LPR militias.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Surely they gave all the ethnic Russians in the 2 independent republics who fled east at the start of the war citizenship?
Russia gave citizenship on location basis, not on ethnicity basis. So a lot of ethnic Ukrainians from Russian-controlled areas got citizenship, while ethnic Russians from the rest of Ukraine don’t get preferential treatment.