• shalafi@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    Never been antisemitic in my life, not even a drop. Now when I hear the word “Jew” I feel negative about it, “Israel” even more so.

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      14 hours ago

      I think it is really important to try and not conflate being Jewish with being pro-Israel.

      Personally I am not willing to condem everyone of Jewish faith due to Israels actions.

    • JohnnyFlapHoleSeed@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      I know… Like an entire generation mobilized to stop what Germany was doing to the Jews, and try and bring them some kind of justice.

      Then they thank the world by spying on their allies, extorting them into authoritarian regimes using their state funded child sex ring. Then they go on to commit genocide, and act like anyone who opposes it is an antisemite.

      No, people just generally don’t support genocide and whole sale slaughter of civilians.

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        15 hours ago

        Don’t think of it as “jews show their thanks like this” that’s an easy path to accidentally fostering bigotry. Of course a nation founded by victims of genocide and members of the affected group around the world whose group has been victim to many genocides in their millennium + of diaspora are going to spy on everyone. Especially considering that the USA and USSR both took nazi talent in after the war, and that nobody cared enough to fight when it was just Jews’ word against Germany’s.

        This is yet another settler colonialist nation committing genocide after decades of dehumanization of their victims. Israel associates itself with the international Jewish community and their tragic history in the same way the United States does with the concept of democracy and freedom or the USSR did with the international proletariat. Every non-Israeli Jew and a good chunk of the Israeli ones could hate Israel with the passion many of my Jewish friends do. They could hate it enough to blot out Israel as well as Haman on Purim. And even then Israel would claim to stand for them and speak for them and that criticism of Israel is antisemitism.

        We must maintain our opposition to genocide and our opposition to bigotry based on racial or ethnic lines. We must force the citizens of Israel and its supporters to see the humanity of the starving Palestinians, just as we forced the people of Germany and the world to see the humanity of the Jewish people, and just as we should have done in America any time in the past 300 or so years with our indigenous peoples.