• ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    is europe succumbing to fascism too, or will they defeat it? i think its gonna be fascism.

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      20 hours ago

      They’d need to progress to Socialism to actually beat fascism, so in the absence of Socialist Revolution, fascism becomes more a matter of time.

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    Ok, now ban it. Liberals, this is your moment. Show us that you are capable of cracking down on fascists, even after you failed spectacularly with Israel.

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      They are too busy punching left and banning real “extremist groups” such as people with a Palestinian flag.

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          Yeah, i got it, thats why i went along. As the joke goes, the liberal is in a room with a fascist, a communist and an anarchist. He has a gun and two bullets. Whats does he do? Handles the gun to the fascist

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    is this the same police state that’s labeling pro-palestinians as anti-semitic terrorists?

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      Finally someone points that out. No only that, the same police state that bans speeches (even online ones!) on just what happens in Gaza… and here we are, a bunch of people in the fediverse clapping for the potential ban of an entire political party.

      We should have learned long ago that we don´t need the “domestic secret service” to classify a political party as anything, nor new sudden anti-terror laws to be brought up; all of these measurements are always Trojan horses for the powers be to control future narratives that go way beyond what they were originally was said it was intended for. The truth is that both Europe and US have proven and established laws, with its checks-and-balances, to deal with people and organizations that want to do harm. All this paraphernalia of "secret police reports¨, “national security”, “PATRIOT act” and the like are intended to circumvent the laws and provide no guarantees so we end up with what we experience recently, with journalists imprisoned in the EU for years without any charges. Haven´t you notice that these measures are never rescinded back?!

      Trust me, after they ban AfD, any other party that possesses a chance to threat the establishment (whether harmful or benevolent, right or left) will get banned too, and easily so then. If AfD does something illegal, persecute them with the current laws for that and make sure all political parties are subject to the same scrutiny, no need of a secret police reports that cannot be disclosed for national security reasons.

      The erosion we are creating to our countries’ institutions is spiraling out of control and parties like AfD, Reform UK, etc are not the cause, but the symptoms of disfranchising large amounts of people from many years on the making. Hermetically closing the lid while the fire is still on will bring nothing good for anyone.

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        The erosion we are creating to our countries’ institutions is spiraling out of control and parties like AfD, Reform UK, etc are not the cause, but the symptoms of disfranchising large amounts of people from many years on the making…

        very true and afd and reform exist to take advantage of it for their own goals like maga does and those goals include the same style ban-happy-parties just like liberals like to engage in.

        democrats & maga, cdu & afd, labor & reform are two sides of the same capitalist coins that ensures that the disenfranchisement will continue to take place matter what and their adherents are too busy fighting their respective culture to wars to realize that they’ve been manipulated into doing so to prevent them from fighting the class war.