The other way around, banning AfD is a very harmful thing to do.

The good thing to do would be to put its important figures in jail for mafia activity, which would also lead to many people outside of AfD, be a non-conditional improvement for the society and kill that party very quickly.

There is that mafia activity and it will be found if it’s looked for.

the cause and effects of social levers before.

I don’t use social levers here and I am not interested in them unless that’s the only thing the interaction is about.

You are not becoming a more valuable human by being more social, and I don’t care about quantity in arguments.

The conversation is about being right and wrong, not about social levers. Nobody was trying to gain your respect or otherwise socialize with you anyway. Would be weird.

This is some kindergarten-level social competency my dude.

I don’t think “social competency” is a good person’s attribute and under pressure people err.

Everyone fucks up, but when you do, you’re supposed to apologize.

That’s weighted by the situation. If in the rest of it you were right and you are apologizing, you might cause harm.

That’s in abstract, not in this particular case.

Society doesn’t need to accommodate immaturity/anger management issues like that, but it definitely should shun racism.

This seems dangerously close to considering what crowd thinks to be right. I prefer a machine gun or at least to run away.

Anyway I’m not talking to society, it can go fuck itself.

Do better.

Just did.

If there is valuable “social competency”, it’s in saying “no” despite any pressure and in holding your ground on your principles. Unless those principles dictate otherwise and exactly till that moment.

So maybe I can teach you.

and you’re just very bad at explaining your position on an extremely sensitive subject?

An extremely sensitive subject is normally discussed the same way as an absolutely mundane subject, just very sensitive.

Like a big system is like a small system, just big. And vice versa.

Order of statements in a conversation or actions in a conflict matters, and a statement or an action can have different weight.

Quite obviously if you are generally right, but have used some nasty insults, you are still generally right. Even if the other side is perfectly polite.

And, again, why are you listing other ways to insult people, as if they are fine when they’re not?

God, are you dense.

Life is a rarely a zero-sum exchange, and quite often both sides aren’t perfect people. Just because someone slapped you after you called them a slur doesn’t mean you’re now in the right because they escalated to physical violence.

You even write that yourself. When someone is violating your private space or just attacking you on the street because they don’t like you for whatever reason (autistic people get a lot of that) and they are a humiliated good-for-nothing creature with no other ways to reinforce their self-confidence, you might say a lot of things including slurs to get rid of them, and be right.

Like I fundamentally am having trouble relating to you on this. I can’t tell if your mental is that fucked, if you are terrible at explaining something I’m missing, or if you’re trying to troll. I’ve come across differences in opinions, based on severity and direction. It feels like we’re not using the same system.

No, you are trying to play intelligent refusing to admit you get a very simple mechanism.

They have a simplistic tit-for-tat moral code

The alternatives are limited to “my group is always right” and “I pick one aspect and ignore all others, and the one aspect is always arbitrarily chosen, and when the comparison kinda equals, the result is arbitrarily chosen”. If you have any to add, you are welcome.

And the word “simplistic” is usually used by people unable to defend their position with actual points. It’s kinda useless otherwise.

and ignore the relative degree of contempt telegraphed by different ethnic slurs.

Since it is not given here what the particular slur would be compared against for any “relative degree”, your comment clearly presents you as someone who

tends to not be very bright

, and the advice I won’t accept wasn’t answering my comment. I said that a continuation of an argument doesn’t say much about the beginning.

Ethnic slurs are a subset of insults here. Not much different from addressing someone’s body features, impairments, life story specifics.

There is no situation where you are on the right side when using a slur.

Of course there is, every time it’s a minor part of the event. Like 3000 is greater than 2001, despite 1 being greater than 0. Seems simple enough.

Ah. OK, stopping defending her.

It’s funny how these things work, where I live nationalists are rather intelligent people, that kind is just thugs. And something about “white race” being said seriously I’ve only heard from people, eh, limited in their worldview and thinking it’s absolutely normal. Older teachers, for example. Or my idiot dad, but at the same time anything right-related in my interests he would perceive as signs of scary-scary fascism, I don’t think one can see that combination often.

Not being protective of telling children anything such, but I have used ethnic slurs in the past, especially when answering other insults. And when you were being unjustly attacked, then slipped and said something bad, and then are being attacked for that too as if that justified the beginning, then it’s a natural reaction to double down on the unfortunate words too.

So, eh, depends on the situation. I think I have right to answer people attacking me and putting me into a fight-or-flight situation with any words, they’ll still be in the wrong. But if this is not what happened, then using someone’s race as an argument worthy of repetition should be punished.