It’ll be super fucked if we do. If it’s left vs right you’ll have most of the major cities besieged by rural folk. If it’s state on state, Red and blue states both will have to “secure” vast swaths of their populations or suffer constant sabotage.

This isn’t as easily cut and dry, north vs south, as the US civil war was. Modern civil war would be a hell of destroyed cities and slaughtered or starving innocents. Just look at all current conflicts. You may be tired now, but it’s nothing compared to the reality of what USCWII would be.

Yeah the context needs to be given of how much was spent finding that fraud vs how much that fraud cost the system. Then ask the question, is a minuscule amount of fraud tolerable if it costs more to find and eliminate it? When they inevitably say the fraud should be snuffed out at all costs then ask why we don’t work to eliminate millionaire level tax fraud. Then they will just start ignoring you because accepting and genuinely contemplating those questions and answers will alter the hate filled world view too much.