Isaac (ieh)

Do not use ableist slurs on Lemmy.World.

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It’s not surprising to me at all that you would say nasty things without knowing anything about me and making baseless assumptions.

From what i’ve seen from the modlog, I would expect a joke that revolved around dad referencing sex with mom (or their sexuality at all) would also get removed.

Note that I don’t personally agree with the rule, it’s just a rule I don’t see as problematic, nor being enforced unfairly.

Why don’t you have a problem with “bisexual” not being considered “gay”? Because you’ve decided that’s okay. And I don’t disagree necessarily, because for example we have LGBTQ+ which separates out the letters. But if you reduce that to a single word, it would probably be “gay”, meaning that bisexuality is also gay.

I’m sure it would surprise some of the commentors calling me a bigot to learn that my wife is bisexual. Not that you can’t have members of some class being bigots. But I’d imagine it would sitll surprise them. Nor do most people who don’t actually give a shit about the conversation and who are just looking for a convenient target to hate care much either. Which is not you, which is why I gave you an actual reply.

Interesting choice to make a reference written by a known transphobe.

I’ve taken a look at the moderator log, and they are pretty consistent about it.

I can understand the concern - seeing this post caused me to go take a look.

I’m open to my mind being changed, but it appears to me that they pretty consistently remove jokes with a sexual component, and often suggest c/unclejokes as an alternative place for posting them.

At the moment, this looks to me to be a community rule that not everyone agrees with, but a reasonable rule to have and enforce. It certainly does not break the Lemmy.World TOS.

The job of a moderator is to act as a janitor and facilitator. They remove spam, bigotry, and posts that don’t fit. And then hopefully help ensure the things that do fit are allowed - so the community then upvotes/downvotes on what they like or don’t like. But it is worth bearing in mind that moderators are all volunteers, and in addition to being a janitor and facilitator, they have often created the communities in question, and so should and do have a hand in how those communities operate. Ideally, it’s a balance between what the community wants and the vision the mod has for the community.

I will also say that 1) everyone’s opinions on what crosses lines are different, and 2) after moderating in various places for 30 years of my life, I can say that a surprising amount of content requires subjective calls to be made, even with brilliantly objective rules. Context is surprisingly critical in many cases, for example, although in this instance, it’s more about where lines are drawn and what exactly is “sexual”.

I personally don’t have any problems with this joke at all, and if I were the mod, I think I wouldn’t worry about what actual children might think of jokes - but that’s where this community is, and this removal seems reasonable to me based on that rule.

I’ve reviewed the community’s moderator log, and that is something they commonly do, in fact.

I don’t even know where to begin to try and guess where you think you get that from.

I suggest using the power of your free speech to walk up in person too anyone of color and using any of those words to their face and see how your “free speech” goes.

Furthermore, a little reasearch on what “free speech” means and doesn’t mean might be in order.

What I find interesting is that so many people seem to want to stand up on the side of bigotry and demand their “right” to be a bigot and use bigoted language. I’m not sure that’s really a great look.