ok, then do it and don’t tell me? You wanted to wait 16 hours for a response before you let me go? It’s gross dude. Just shut up and get outta here

I don’t understand the need to keep poking at me. I have a point, if you don’t wanna hear it and you’re just gonna insult me personally then it’s not worth it for either of us. I’m talking about politics, not people’s feelings. People currently having children are telling me they think the US is gonna collapse into “fascist communist authoritarianism” within the next 10 years so excuse me for trying to reach ppl while taking shits before / at work

And this is what, your attempt to make me feel like a loser? To make yourself not feel like one? I won’t move on, the DNC and liberals are trying to move on from their failures. Failure to codify roe v wade, failure to secure large scale legislation on free healthcare and schooling, failed on taxing the rich (even locally for me, mind you. Infact democrats locally, bipartisan are letting the richest inhabitants not pay taxes on new businesses and hotels). So even if I change one persons mind on holding the DNC accountable I win in my book. Please don’t shut your eyes to the lies the DNC is telling you. Make them earn our fucking votes for fucks sake. And then go outside.

How is it my fault if I already voted for them though? It’s also the Democratic Party who’s responsible for, oh you know, the ENTIRE party? I’m literally only one vote. If it were my responsibility the republicans wouldn’t have won my city. Do you even understand what you’re talking about here?

What do you mean standing my ground? The state I live in is one of the only places where voting for democrats locally is actually worth it! How is it my fault as a single voter?! I already voted for them!!

Typical, that is very obviously not what I want. I want people to have free health care, free education and more. Show me where Trump wants that.

My point is that voting is the very very beginning of your political responsibility as a leftist. There is a lot more to do. And no I don’t mean financially support, I mean organization and community outreach. This should really be seen as something you do first and regardless of who is president. Donate money to your local food shelf if you can, & I mean every month.

Also don’t take what I say too seriously I’m just one guy, I just get annoyed when people bring up establishment democrats and act like if they were president all this would be better. My only gripe is with that rhetoric. You should be doing way more than voting. Like, yesterday.

Explain to me why I should vote for politicians sending billions to Israel, a genocidal country, when our country and our sovereign rights are literally eroding at home. I’ll wait. I vote for democrats every chance I get. Midterms and all.

Tell me, when I see the governor of my state running for VP (A man who’s campaign I supported btw) and he says on TV that he’ll “preemptively strike Iran” and his running mate, the current vice president of the country, saying we need to have the “strongest military force in the world” I’m supposed to support that? While democrats fund a genocide? Forget being worse in Gaza than Biden, Biden and his admin still destroyed the city and laughed about it to voters. They killed tens of thousands.

You really think young voters see that, see them touting around fucking DICK CHENEYS DAUGHTER, the Cheney family being one of the most evil families in my lifetime (look up the Wikipedia page for Halliburton Oil Company to get a start).

Seriously I have no interest in the “lesser evils” because everyone is lesser evil than Trump. That’s the most obvious to everyone but fascists. You can’t convince me that Imperial exploitation and genocide and war is ok if it’s not Trump in office doing it. Insult me all you want, doesn’t change reality.

I am a queer person and I know lots of queer people too and I will block you if you try to say anything gross about Palestine and LGBT rights. I’ve had enough of that and I don’t engage with it anymore

Yeah, sucks that the dnc decided the genocide of the Palestinian population, frac mining and also cracking down on immigration and funding ICE was more important than massive LGBT rights overhaul and universal healthcare overhaul. Damn lgbt leftists having morals !!! Maybe in 2026 Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris could capitulate MORE to the right, the same people they (rightfully) call fascists! Where can we bring Liz Cheney this time? Bring Bush Jr too!!!

Our leadership, both DNC and especially republican, has failed us as a people. Capitalism has failed us. It’s a disgusting look in the mirror, but we have to realize this is the USA working exactly as intended. Capitalism in America, brought on by genocide and slaughter, was always intended to go this way. We are in 1930s capitalist Germany, for all intents and purposes. When shit hits the fan, and I’m starting to believe it really will, it’ll be up to us and our neighbors to pick up the pieces together. The DNC has abandoned the people in favor of right wing Neo liberal imperialism abroad and at home. It’s time to abandon them so we can attack fascism at its roots, not just the emboldened Trump admin. It goes way deeper than that, unfortunately.

Thanks! I’m extremely lucky my parents are both in great health, so I’m focusing on being happy w them. My dad has a strong spirit. He gave up smokes in the 80s. For anyone it may help reading, quitting feels awesome after a while. It’s so worth it in the long run. Just think of how much longer we could have had some of our favorites: Lenin, David Lynch, the list goes on

I almost smoked over the weekend, found out we lost my grandmother on Saturday morning , still haven’t picked one back up. Starting a new job this weekend too, after the strike on the first, Almost gave myself the excuse that I’m stressing so might as well.

I can put it this way, my grandmother lived a beautiful long life, created wonderful paintings and ceramic vases, career artist, never smoked once in her life and lived to be 95. My grandfather smoked like a chimney, passed about 15 years ago, I think he was about 80. Makes a youngin’ think

I don’t think you understand this conflict as well as you’re pretending to. I don’t really understand it thoroughly but I do understand way more than “Russia attacked Ukraine out of nowhere because they’re evil” which is usually followed by “Putin is evil and also a communist and wants to bring back the USSR which is evil”

pissing into the wind now cuz u caught a ban though. What a shame

Smoking cigarettes isn’t dangerous to everybody in your vicinity only to second hand smoke and it’s kinda disingenuous to pretend the danger to society from the two is comparable. And like I said I smoked for over 10 years and I’m gen z. Society makes it look cool but I should have listened to my mom the whole time.

Idk if it’s really helpful to the convo but As someone who quit smoking less than a year ago after 10+ years I wanna say raising the price won’t help people not smoke. The amount of money I threw at my smokes was just someothing I always budgeted in and it just kinda fucks over poor people who are gonna smoke no matter what. I don’t think this full ban is really gonna do much for already existing smokers. Of course if the cost of selling cigarettes was more than the profit we could get somewhere but at the end of the day every industry would benefit from ditching profit based economics. Thats why I’m a leftist I guess

So you’re saying you would willingly die for NATO ideals?

I mean, While trying not to be a Reddit atheist here, if there is a Christian god there’s no way they aren’t a fascist god. Lmao. Look at the state of the world! It’s the classic “either God is not omnipotent or is malevolent”. With a god that allows this kind of untold suffering, possibly even creates it according to these Christians on earth, why would you even need Satan ? Would Satan also not be a good angel for, you know, dealing with every single bad person that’s ever existed for all of eternity? Idk I went to church way too much growing up

It would help if weren’t so fucking smug about it. Now every smug fucking anti vax person is acting like they were proven right by this fuckin scum bag. They are eating silver and saying mercury is poison. Motherfucker they’re both poisonous if you take them straight up. People are so stupid

Military people are the fucking weirdest I swear

to be fair, if that’s the way shit goes down there isn’t a single thing you can do (not to be surveilled that is) because we’ve all been on “the list” since the moment we got cell phones and a Facebook or Reddit account. And the moment your workplace got cameras inside or outside. Maybe even before you started working there.

My point being that showing up to these events if you choose to isn’t any more dangerous than surfing the internet at home when it comes to surveillance, or driving along the highway/walking down the street. The moment they start rounding up people for what’s on their phones we’re all the target. Just cuz you have a vpn or something doesn’t mean your posts/phone isn’t findable.

Not trying to scare anyone btw just giving my take on people saying be careful about protests in this way, even just going to work you are surveilled in the same way.