Was Ukraine actually added to NATO? No

Do Ukrainians want to be Russians? No

In fact after the NATO summit of 2008 where Bush said Ukraine should be a NATO member, Putin who was at that NATO summit said he didn’t want that (same for Georgia).

After that NATO didn’t push membership further and Putin attacked and claimed parts of Georgia anyway.

About a month after Putin said he had no plan to attack Ukraine he took Crimea.

I know people from both Ukraine and Georgia and they always tell me that Russia has been an agressive neighbor forever and they really don’t want to be Russians.

I’m not saying the west it perfect and we definitely did things wrong. But the invasion of Ukraine is 100% Putin, he did this, there was no war, nobody was threatening Russia. In fact the EU was slowly getting a better economic relationship with Russia.

But in the end all of this doesn’t matter, it’s not about NATO, or the west. If you listen to what Putin is actually saying, he thinks Ukraine and Georgia both are not counties. In his view they have always been part of Russia, so he would have invaded them at some point anyway.

This is like saying Germany losing WW2 is what allowed Israel to attack Iran.

The 5% is probably too much, but its realistically 3.5% the othet 1.5% can be spend on infrastructure (like make bridges strong enough so tanks can drive over them), on cyber defense and other things that are not weapons.

Also it’s about deterrence, when we spend enough Russia can’t attack unless they match the spending, this is part why the Soviet Union collapsed.

The thing is the EU is mostly concerned about Europe, while the US wants to play world police. So if China would invade Taiwan and NATO is without the US, I’m not sure they are going to get involved, it would open the gate for Russia. If the US is still part of NATO I’m not sure what will happen as it’s not an article 5 event. So the other NATO countries are not automatically involved even if the US is.

Look dude you are talking about actively resisting, so thats why I asked how are you doing that. And if you think I’m an fbi agent or something just say what someone theoretically can do, how can I actively resist?

Yeah sure I bet except from complaining here you don’t do shit

Ok, so how are you actively resisting yourself?

I don’t know maybe you’ll end up with Trump again after this if people don’t change the way they vote.