





you know you have the option to just exchange ideas with other humans right ? fucking half cocked pseudo intellectual reaching for insults at the first 3 syllable word. what a bore.


you think religion represents 90% of the intellectual discourse?
No, i’m saying 90% of intellectual discourse is at least influenced by religion because it comes from people who are religious. Atheism being significant is a very modern phenomenon so if you’re going to study anything in history, philosophy, art or science, it’s gonna be full of religious people acting out their religious beliefs.
Even today something like 4 out of 5 people are religious, and most atheists are influenced by that common culture in some way. Dismissing the whole cultural reservoir as fairy tale is a terrible footgun, it can only make everything confusing. Everybody else is pulling from it and you refuse to even acknowledge it, that’s not gonna work.
You’re going to read poetry but it will make no sense and the climax won’t land because you can’t empathize with the religious sentiment. You’re going to read greek philosophy but it will feel drawn out and theoretical because you can’t empathize with the religious imperatives of the author. And i say this as a strict agnostic, i’m really not the kind of guy you’ll find in a church. But you can’t get to the meat of most intellectual discourse if you dismiss religion, just like you can’t get to the meat of most physics if you dismiss math.


Yeah it’s pretty sad to see comments such as this. It’s a terribly unpoetic way to live life, cutting themselves off from 90% of the intellectual discourse produced during humanity’s history :(
that’s the kind of attitude i loathe in real life. “I’ve thought about it for 5 minutes and reached a hasty conclusion and everyone is stupid for not having thought of it”, except everybody has thought of it minute 1, some have even tried it, and we know it doesn’t work.
You’re right to point that out it’s shady to conflate a modern nation with some past empire within its borders, i didn’t mean it like that, or in the ethnic way.
I meant that this region, broadly speaking “Persia”, has often been the center of its own empire and a peer to its neighbors. It’s not some recently stabilized nation state with limited collective experience, it’s an old old place that already had a complex urban economy when western Europe was still neolithic. That’s why i joke with the Elamites, that shit is deep history man, broken to the yoke of empire time and time again.
Who would’a thunk ?
Isn’t that kind of their signature moves? Trying something that sounds kinda sorta like common sense but it’s profoundly stupid or has already failed countless times before…
What’s funny is they got into this mess solely by their own crass ignorance. I’m persuaded they thought it would be like Syria or other asymmetrical wars they fought. Well though luck dipshits, Iran is a whole other kind of beast.
They already shit their pants in Afghanistan despite it being literally nicknamed “the graveyard of empires”. But Iran is not that, Iran is its own empire and has been for thousands of years. Good luck trying to get Elamites and Medes to bend the knee. You’re not the first to try.