TheMuffinMan

I totally agree with this assessment, but being high and being tipsy/drunk are also very different beasts.

I wouldn’t smoke if I’m trying to gain a bit more social courage lmao

Yes, that is what I referring to when I said that police have a lot to answer for. How multiple police officers fail to notice the victim was stabbed in is mind-boggling, let alone while he is literally telling them this. This is a level of incompetence that actually makes dystopian levels of job automation (including policing) seem favourable.

I think “where you fall on the political spectrum” is quite a personal thing for the attending police officers to know, as opposed to demographic information. I doubt you are insinuating that white people have uniform political opinions

I appreciate you summarising the actual story/news article, but that is not what I was asking about.

My comment was a reply to rambling about… “Lemmy says to punch Nazis and this is what happens when you don’t allow people to make mistakes” which was barely comprehensible, chock full of false assumptions about what happened and what Lemmy users think, and topped off with a smidge of Nazi apologia.

I think the comment I replied to has since been removed as I can’t see it anymore, so I’m guessing you saw my comment as a top-level comment. No biggie.

Anyway, while I’m here, I’ll leave my actual thoughts on the story itself, which is that it’s a horrible tragedy. It’s also sickening how the far right are hijacking his parents’ grief to stir division and make some delusional point about white people being oppressed in the UK. Police have a lot to answer for on this one.

What in the world are you talking about?

“centred around” is a subjective projection rather than statement of a fact in cases where gamete production genuinely does not occur. For this person, her gonads never developed into either testes or ovaries, so by this definition she would be of neither sex. I’m OK with that, but it does undermine your point about the strict binary.

My question to you is why does this matter, in the context of accessing bathrooms and changing rooms? Do you think inspecting reproductive anatomy is a proportionate measure?

More broadly speaking, what is the point of recording the ‘biological sex’ of a person who, through transition, has changed their physiology and endocrine profile to that associated with the opposite, and no longer has their natal reproductive anatomy? Who would this benefit?

…nope. Her body can’t produce either. And she has a uterus and fallopian tubes.

Gotcha. Their point is kind of right though; sex is less of a strict binary category and more 2 clusters we (people) created that allow us to more easily classify specimens based on strongly correlated traits. Both clusters have some overlap, and no trait on its own completely determines the cluster.

E.g. I knew a case of this woman who grew up her whole life never knowing she has XY chromosomes, because she had seemingly typical female sex characteristics. It was only when she and her husband where struggling to conceive and they went to a fertility clinic, that that fact came to light. “Biological male” might be the cluster you’d want to put her under, but she lacks many of the features of that cluster, so in that case the binary classification is a little weak.

Of course most people/animals are not intersex (or transitioned), but the point is that the biological sex binary is kind of a shorthand / way of making life easier to classify most of the population, but it’s not perfect or tidy.

The easiest way to stay accurate is to just narrow down to the specific relevant trait (“person with facial hair”, “person with androgenetic alopecia”, etc.) depending on what specifically is measured/being talked about. But being that precise can come at the expense of being less clear/accessible to the layman, which is why we use biological sex as a concept.

I’m not the person you asked, but ‘assigned sex’ is fine. The common one is ‘assigned gender at birth’.

I’m not entirely sure what point you’re making, when sex reassignment surgery exists.

Not all trans people get it, sure, but many trans men have dicks and many trans women have vaginas. These usually align cosmetically but will have functional differences to their cis counterparts. Where would you crudely sort such people?

There’s also genital nullification surgery (think Barbie doll - nothing at all).

I’m done living in this shithole.

Not that I ever would, but if I went into the women’s they’d (rightly) tell me to fuck off or report me to staff.