MerryJaneDoe

I’m listening, my friend. Go ahead. (I can’t be bothered to click on link and find his name.)

They were mostly in the 7-12 years old range. And the death count has exceeded 160 now.

You just described everyone in DC

By all means, let’s you and I decide to hate each other, instead of trying to reclaim our country back from our corporate overlords.

Dunno what to tell ya. The process is what it is. What we are seeing is a failure of of the entire system of checks and balances. The legislative and judicial branches refuse to reign in the executive branch. IMHO, our Congress members and Supreme Court are more culpable for those girls’ deaths than the soldier who fired that missile.

I can’t speak for what actually happens, or what even what SOP in the armed forces might be in this situation.

SO…I googled it. Here’s the levels of complexity involved in a Tomahawk missle strike:

1. Command and Authorization (Top-Down Flow)

   Authorization: The process starts with a decision by the President, often passed through the National Security Council to the Secretary of Defense, and then to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Command Channel: The Joint Chiefs convey the order to a regional commander (e.g., U.S. Central Command or Indo-Pacific Command). Execution Order: The regional commander transmits the target information and engagement requirements to the specific launch platforms (ships or submarines).

2. Transmitting the Order to the Specialist

   Secure Communications: The order is sent via secured, encrypted digital communications to the vessel’s Tomahawk Strike Coordinator (TSC) or equivalent senior operator. TTWCS Integration: The data is directly integrated into the Tactical Tomahawk Weapons Control System (TTWCS) on board. Mission Planning: The TTWCS allows the crew to plan the route or receive pre-planned, digital target coordinates, known as a Missile Sequence Number (MSN) task.

3. Action by the Specialized Operator (Launch Team)

   Mission Assignment: The firing platform’s operators receive a digital tasker, which includes primary and sometimes backup assignments. Validation: Specialists on the bridge/combat center verify the target and launch authorization. Targeting Data Entry: The TTWCS is updated with the new target data, which may include GPS coordinates. Block IV missiles can be reprogrammed in-flight, but the launch command requires pre-defined parameters. Launch Sequence: The operators execute the final launch sequence, which involves the missile being ejected by a solid-fuel booster from the Vertical Launching System (VLS).

SO, at which point should the crew have refused the order? Where does the blame lay?

Maybe you haven’t checked the polls lately.

The president had an 83% approval among Republicans, a 3% approval among Democrats and a 28% approval among independent voters, as well as a 48% approval among men and 28% approval among women. The survey also found that 53% of voters oppose military action in Iran, 40% support it and 7% are undecided.

https://kfanplus.iheart.com/content/2026-03-13-trumps-approval-rating-compared-to-2028-democratic-frontrunners-revealed/

83% approval from his base. Crazy. The rich boomers LOVE war.

It always was. But thanks to information technology, everyone now has a front row set to the clown show.

As opposed to storming Congress and trashing the building?

Democrat or Republican, the voice of the people is dead. America is a corporate machine now. The only thing that speaks for the people is the stock market.

it “feels” like imo no one should be siding with America.

As far as I know, no other country besides Israel has sided with the U.S.

The people here have no power. The elections have been rigged for years - not necessarily by directly manipulating ballots, but by using gerrymandering (unfair voting districts) and by allowing unlimited corporate money into elections (Citizens United, 2010).

The executive branch can only be reigned in by Congress or the Supreme Court. Both seem unwilling or unable to hold the Trump admin accountable. The next step will be federal agents (probably ICE) engaging in voter intimidation at the polls. They will try to take over the actual verification and count the votes themselves.

It seems like assigning the blame solely to the soldier is downplaying the crime. Why don’t you want the entire chain of command prosecuted?

Nope. Not gonna read a 23 page document. YOU tell ME how it’s similar. Or at least copy/paste the relevant information.

Second, I’m all about prosecuting war crimes. I’d love to see this one prosecuted. How about we actually investigate it, too? Maybe, I dunno, find out who gave the order. If bad intel was passed. If the leaders knew about the bad intel but decided to proceed.

Ofc, this won’t actually happen. The “war” is just another distraction, until the next manufactured crisis and the next until humanity snuffs itself out with its own all-too-clever Machiavellian schemes.

But by all means, throw the full weight of social justice at the poor sap who has to live with knowing his finger pushed a button that killed 160 innocent girls. Beloved daughters and sisters, erased from this world to amuse a demented billionaire’s ego.

You got me twisted, my friend. I fully condemn the military actions. All of them.

But assigning blame to some random soldier? It’s like screaming at the waitress over a menu item. She didn’t write the menu, she doesn’t cook the food, she has literally no power over anyone.

Yes. I wonder if that’s an option on the gambling platforms?

My guess is they hit an Army base, so that they can better control the narrative.

By coveting.

There’s a scene from Band of Brothers, two GIs meet a French family on D-Day. One of the soldiers offers the boy, 4 or 5 years old, a chocolate bar. The boy smiles from ear to ear when he tastes it. His father says, “Thank you. He’s never had chocolate before.”

Imagine that. Imagine living in a society where chocolate is considered an exotic food. That’s how the world was, for almost all of human history. You live in Norway and you want a lemon? HA! Tough shit, you’ll never even know what lemon smells like.

But, at some point, Americans got used to having every delicacy from every corner of the world. We forgot that each nibble of chocolate is exotic. That the beans aren’t native to our country. That most people in the world can’t afford real chocolate except as a rare treat. And look at us now - just like the rest of the world.

Oh, my. The US is so very, very far away from a revolution. The citizens are hopelessly outgunned. The police have been militarizing since the 80s, and there’s always the Army/National Guard if things get really wild.

Further, the people who are most likely to call for revolution are the least likely to own firearms or have military training. MAGA is armed to the teeth - the Dems and progressives, not so much.

So, I’m afraid you’ll have to choose Door #2 - a slow descent into authoritarianism and fascism. (But at least ICE can provide “security” for our “fair and free” elections.)

Google? What say you?

Based on reports from early 2026, there have been allegations and estimates suggesting a high death toll during crackdowns on protests in Iran, with some sources, including reports cited by TIME magazine, indicating that over 30,000 people may have been killed by security services on Jan. 8 and 9, 2026. However, this figure is highly disputed and the subject of intense media contention:

High Estimates: Reports from Iranian interior ministry sources and TIME suggested over 30,000 deaths in a massive, rapid crackdown, with bodies reportedly transported in trucks and the exhaustion of body bags.

Government Denials: The Iranian Foreign Ministry has dismissed reports of a 30,000+ death toll as a “Hitler-style BIG LIE”.

Official Figures: The Iranian government has acknowledged a much lower death toll of 3,117, claiming this number includes civilians, security forces, and those they termed “terrorists”.

Other Estimates: Other reports have indicated varied, yet still high, estimates, including over 16,500 dead, 7,000 killed according to activists, or a lower figure of around 1,300, as reported in other updates during that volatile period.

Probably just a stickler for spelling errors.

For the sake of those kids and their families, I hope your numbers are off. I can’t find anything to corroborate your claim, but feel free to provide specifics/sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

Yes, they should be charged. But they won’t be charged, because the executive branch is the very branch that runs law enforcement and the military. Why would they give themselves a black eye?