SomeLemmyUser

Can we just agree that

YES, right extreme state of Israel = bad

NO, not the whole religion and all Jews are therefore bad (at least not more than other religions) ?

Extremely annoying that political criticism and religious hate always get mixed up (partly on purpose).

I don’t like murica government, doesn’t make me anti christian, I don’t like Iran government, doesn’t make me anti-muslim, I don’t like israel- government, doesn’t make me antisemitic.

Also: I don’t like how easy nonscientific believes such as religions can be used as tools to crowd control

Talk about ideas, deeds, actors and political regimes, not about people grouped by religions, ethnicity or looks and you have a much more productive discussion.

Ah thanks, its hidden by default in my app so I rarley look at those. MB

Forgive me my unknowing, what does ydi stand for?

He is not disparaging the whole community. As you said “there must be zero personal powered vehicles” is not a position the community has.

You can’t say “fallacious arguments” AND “disparaging the whole community”

Only one of the two can be accurate. IMO it’s fallacious arguments, which is not a good reason to remove or ban IMHO.

The reaction to stupid arguments should be good arguments or education, not removal.

You assume a whole lot about the person, if this is the only mistake he made. Maybe its just a 15yo who seriously doesn’t understand the difference. If he has a (long) history of purposefully misunderstanding the point and derailing its a different story. If not you are banning him for a bad argument you don’t agree with. That’s absolutely power tripping reddit mod behavior.

Wrong community, did you mean AITA?

To your point though:

Tldr: IMHO you overreacted.

While i am totaly on your side regarding the abolishment of car-societies, you banned/removed someone for “direct insult” who made a comment about a general group of people.

Especially since you (and most people on the sub) don’t even argue for the point he is making fun of, this is clearly no direct insult against any particular person.

While his comment IS stupid (IMHO) and IS a strawman argument (so doesn’t add anything to discussion but rather steer towards a direction I find non-constructive) It IS also clearly a hyperbol and IS clearly NOT directly insulting a particular person.

So even if I share your annoyment regarding such people, I think you went full reddit mode and abused your powers. Just my humble opinion, feel free to disagree

While I find it legitimate to ban people who repeatedly only derail and insult for the fun of it, I don’t think banning people not getting the point or using graphic language fosters a good discussion culture or gets anyone to change their views or educate themself but just leads to a circle jerk. The point when to assume someone is acting in bad faith is not easy to define, but especially if this is a oneoff its definitely not reached in my opinion.

While you can mod your sub this way, I don’t think it helps for reaching our goal and its not the moderation I would like to see.

judgment: PTH(uman)

“Lost its radio signal” As if we didn’t have footage of them jamming

“Blockade to avoid weapon delivery”

“Ship carrying humanitarian aid”

“These antisemitic flotilla”

"The IDF prepared in advance to intercept the ship before it could enter Israeli territorial waters; "

Enough said