Thanks for the sources.

Personally, I am more concerned about the impact a gas/petrol shortage would have rather than oil as a whole, but this is useful to know.

Is that it?

Can someone post the actual text of Section 224?

Where did you get those numbers? I know for gasoline/petroleum its roughly equal local production and consumption.

sometimes people make comments they may not fully believe in to drive discussion…

bubba i dont believe the article, why are you so dense?

I don’t trust the state department- I mean NYT either, but you’re not as intelligent as you think you are with that reply.

“the americans said yes but the saudis said no” wow golf clap you got me there so smart

This is exactly why he got in trouble, because he couldn’t just put the word “most” or “many” in there, and tried to paint all Jewish folks as genocide-supporters

He specifically said 80-90%, he also called them Zionists not genocide supporters which has a broader definition, anywhere from supporting Israeli state in Palestine to believing Jewish people should have some kind of sovereignty.

Nobody seems content with critically thinking - “who would someone behave in this manner?” is a question you should ask yourself

You and the mod are distorting this persons comment from what he said with this manor of thinking. Then you want to block the discussion from even happening that can disqualify it. Just let him get either downvoted to hell or dunked on in the comments. I dont see the point of the intense censorship on behalf of these ten fifty whatever percent of american jews that will be slighted that their religion has been conflated with zionism when there is literally a star of david on the f35 bombing children in now lebanon.

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https://archive.is/ejSpv

hahah yeah

I’m a bit skeptical of that given their capabilities were already demonstrated on Israel in the “12 day war”.

I think its typical arab snaking tbh.

why this guy beg trump to attack iran then?

Pretty much all arab leadership want “peace” with Israel. The issue is the Arab street/people absolutely do not want to with varying degrees.

IMO this depends more on economy than relations. If gulf oil is seen as too risky, or restricted by Iran after this, then that would gradually release the USA’s interest in the gulf, as Washington pivots towards greater energy independence and oil integration with LATAM. However, Israel will always swing the American MIC towards war with ME countries (probably Turkiye and/or Syria next after Lebanon and Iran today)

I was referring to the Emirates as a whole, but thanks for the correction. I always forget Dubai is not the capital.

First, I’m new to actively using lemmy, so I’m gradually learning the etiquette on here, and how it differs from other forums. Also, I did not know the downvote button is disabled on your instance, so thank you for the context.

It feels a bit too reddit-like to have open trolls commenting in our communities, but constantly being down voted to the bottom of threads

Sure, if they are actual trolls, and we can define that together in this thread or as a community. However, this user was an active commenter in several news/palestine-related communities, and lets just be honest, was not trolling or derailing the discussion. He disagreed with the OP (and to an extent I share a similar view) that Judaism and American Jews have deep sympathies to Israel, and this manifests in material structures in the United States (synagogues, community orgs, PACs, etc)

OKAY PAUSE

if that last statement is ban worthy because its trolling or “anti-semitism” , how the hell are we supposed to actually have this debate? Then this isn’t trolling and this is where active discussion and voting should take place in the thread. Keep in mind, the person who flung accusations was the mod of the community when he said " You’re not an anti-semite are you?"

Thats why I think this is blatant mod abuse because there seems to be this unnecessary over-moderation and that’s exhibited by the guy continuing the convo in this thread which is unrelated to the community. Overall this fractures discussion across the entire website, not just the individual instance.

Last, you’re going to have to prove the commenter has a repeated history of posting out-of-topic or bait. Not just a singular instance of a disagreement in perspective, and calling out a mod for a flimsy argument using his own rhetoric.

There haven’t been nearly as many internal Mossad operations in Iran since those protests early in the year. Iran has been surprisingly secure since. Perhaps this internal Mossad network has been crippled severely at this point.

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We need to add Dubai to the boycott list.

Its blatantly obvious they are both funding the genocide in Sudan and co-signing the genocide in Palestine. Its a shame the fall of El-Fashir did not lead to greater outrage in the West, like it has for Gaza. These conversations are taking place within activist circles, however at least in the USA, were not doing enough.

imo I think most people aren’t connecting the dots between the UAE’s crucial role in supporting the genocidal Zionist state.

You mean 48 during the Nakba?

FYI 1967 was when Israel occupied the West Bank during the Naksa.