When having to admit their fault the moderator started looking for arbitrary reasons to ban me. Such as not using the exact terminology of the Amnesty report. Which does not call it genocide.
The moderator is also watching user votes, and calling out people not voting with him.
The concession on a technicality that genocide isn’t explicitly alleged in Amnesty’s report (even if it references sources that do) does not give you a free pass to then violate the rules, which you clearly did after repeated warnings.
You received a 24h ban, which imo is justified given your rules violation. You were repeatedly given chances to walk back your rule violations, only to add more.
goats pinging of db0 was imo stupid behaviour. Admins are also users and there’s nothing that requires them to justify their voting behavior. Singling them out makes no sense. db0 also shouldn’t have engaged them in that thread. But goat did not abuse any mod powers or anything for this callout. Stupid as it is, it’s not them power tripping. Technically mentioning it is in violation of this community’s rules too:
You were not the target of the callout, nor could the callout be considered a sanction or ban. Had goat banned db0 after the callout, that would have been PTB, but db0 would have to make the post.
YDI.
The source they refer to says it is not genocide but should be called by its actual name because it muddies te water. They proved my point.
I also just found out the mod is a massive Zionist and is still doing genocide propganda for Israel. https://lemmy.world/comment/19117021
You still don’t get it. goat conceded the point that the report doesn’t literally alledge genocide, but “only” serious human rights abuses targeted at a specific demographic.
But goat also says that focusing in on the exact verbiage is besides the point. Serious human rights abuses are serious human rights abuses. It muddies the waters and distracts from the core problem.
Up until this point, you hadn’t broken any rules. But after goat concedes the verbiage to you, he directly asks you to clarify that you do at least acknowledge the human rights abuses as alleged in the report.
You do, but immediately deflect by stating US and European imperialism is worse. Such relativist statements are against the rules, landing you the first violation. When warned and asked to condemn it regardless, you doubled down on the relativism and also denied the targeting based on ethnicity, which resulted in your 24h ban.
Any zionism or pro-Israeli propaganda is frankly irrelevant as it is entirely disconnected from the justification for your ban. I don’t need to like goat or agree with anything else he said (and I don’t, as already indicated), but you did violate the rules as stated and that’s ultimately what matters.
It’s 24 hours for a genuine rule violation, a fairly minor sanction even. You weren’t banned for challenging goat, and he didn’t abuse his mod powers to silence you for challenging him. Based on the rules, I would have banned you too.
YDI.
Just adding that seeing votes isn’t a mod-exclusive power. Anyone can see where votes come from
You can’t see downvotes if the instance blocks lemvotes
really? Where’s it say that? I was under the impression it works everywhere?
https://lemmy.zip/post/45324771
so how’s the opt-out works?
It was in the thread
https://lemmy.zip/post/45324771/20552869
If I post in another instance’s thread, does that mean no one can see my votes?
unless you are the mod of a comm, you cannot see votes on any post without using external tools. that includes on lemmy and piefed.
I don’t know
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