When having to admit their fault the moderator started looking for arbitrary reasons to ban me. Such as not using the exact terminology of the Amnesty report. Which does not call it genocide.
The moderator is also watching user votes, and calling out people not voting with him.
I was expecting this post, thank you.
To start, you were engaging in revisionism and apologia.
I’m fine if you have issues with genocide only being referenced three times in the amnesty report, but you also vehemently denied human rights abuses and the imperialism of current-day China, even arguing for a supportive imperialism, which there is no such thing. The Uyghurs are detained based on ethnicity, which is mentioned numerous times throughout the report – you denied this.
Your ban is temporary, 24 hours. All bans on meanwhileongrad are temporary and are always given after warnings.
This community
You’re also being disingenuous; dbo is not just ‘another’ user. They are the moderator of this snark community (and admin of the instance), which regularly interrogates moderator decisions or behaviour without actually caring if the user has violated the rules. This thread is an example of this. I knew you’d make this post because I’ve dealt with so many Tankies such as yourself that it’s become all very predictable
Which brings me to why I originally pinged db0 about how they vote. This is a perfect example of why I’m specifically holding this community and dbo to this special standard, or rather, the standards they hold others to. The OP, @IndustryStandard@lemmy.world, explicitly violated the rules despite being warned and despite many chances to explain their reasoning, so they received a ban (all bans are temporary on meanwhileongrad). Yet, despite this ban being justified, within the rules, and having received multiple warnings and chances, I am still a “Power-tripping bastard”-not on the basis of my moderation, but rather my views.
To illustrate this, I pinged db0 about their support for Tankies, much as this community pings moderators as to interrogate their personal views instead of the reasoning for the bans. You even conveniently left out the reasoning for why I originally pinged him; that’s bad form, and you’re being disingenuous again.
See, this community regularly interferes with the posts linked. Here are examples from across the thread:
And when moderators come in to give answers for the bans, they’re still attacked. I was pinged to explain why PugJesus messed up, which I did and fixed the mistake, but I was still attacked.
In this thread, no one actually goes into what rules were broken and why they were banned. (Not that I agree with @PugJesus@lemmy.world, I don’t agree with their moderation and have since removed them as Mod)
Pug doesn’t have a chance to explain their reasoning because the moderators here, specifically db0, regularly bans people and makes up rules.
nice. imagine this community’s rage if “shut the fuck up tankie” appeared in modlog… owait, it did with Pug and this community predictably raised a fit about it… But silence when it comes to db0’s moderation.
I answered No. But why do you, db0, and this community expect the same of moderators?
I also explained that !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works is constantly brigaded and attacked as it is the only community that stands against Tankies across Lemmy and holds the developers of Lemmy accountable for their extremist views. We constantly encounter bots, spammers, alt accounts, trolls, and doxxers, so I need to be vigilant by regularly checking who’s interfering and from where.
However, I also regularly see members from this instance and from this community voting on comments and posts that are critical of tankies. When this is coming from the same users and community, that’s rather concerning.
To quote db0,
Maybe you should start holding your community to a higher standard – It’s being captured by tankies. And I’m sure you know the history of how communists treat anarchists lol
Because nothing says anarchy as much as “shut the fuck up liberal”
I don’t expect to reason with anyone from this instance or this community, but hopefully, those unfamiliar with this community, instance, and Tankies as a whole will appreciate the efforts.
thank you sincerely, this was a rare opportunity, shoutout to @blaze@lemmy.zip
I voted in those threads long before I knew this thread existed.
I don’t really, where did I say that?
Support for tankies being a downvote on a post?
Should the OP have been banned?
Can you explain yourself doing genocide propaganda for Israel? https://lemmy.world/comment/19117021
You can ask me after your ban expires
Why does the ban on another community justify not answering?
Because they were banned, not anymore now tho
Again, why does that justify not answering a question?
then I’ll ask. why are you sharing zionist propaganda?
What of that is zionist propaganda, and can you prove that it is using entirely neutral sources?
You’re the one who made the claim, can you provide evidence of it that is empirical?
But again, stop changing the subject. We’re here to talk specifically about you. What lead you to the point in your life where you considered joining neo-Nazi websites?
I can’t prove your claims, only you can do that.
that there was rape on any particular day is a claim. you brought it up, you’re the one making it.
but if you don’t feel like providing any evidence for your claims, that’s fine. that isn’t what this thread is about anyway.
What would the point of that be? You wouldn’t be swayed by facts, you’re openly a hamas supporter.
You must be very sad that you do not have the power to censor people who expose you for supporting the genocide of Palestinians over here. Like you do on your own pro-genocide community.
On a slightly unrelated note: I had issues with the d0 admins not enforcing their “disengage” rule when a user was harassing me on their instance after I asked them to politely to stop engaging.
Huh, really? Did you report the person refusing to disengage?
I check my reports all the time, i didn’t see it. If so, sorry about that
Ditto
Yes however no action was taken. I had to block them oh well.
I appreciate the response ;)
Mind telling the admins who it was so they can moderate them for future rule breaking?
Edit: so that’s a no, you just wanted to stir shit.
I had flatworm ban me for two weeks for a first offence against the disengagement rule and I’ve never seen that before.
It felt personal.
I have the same experiences
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What’s with these comments you’ve made on several occasions about having been a longtime member of voat and other neo-nazi websites? Why is a moderator of a comm visiting a neo-nazi website at all? Since you’re so keen on starting shit, would you like to talk about that at all?
Because I find extremists immensely interesting and have interacted with many of them, ranging from Christian fundamentalists to neo-nazis, to jihadists, to libertarians, to anti-vaxxers, to tankies. I like to challenge their views, and it’s also educational how these groups operate and how individuals fall into extremism.
I ended up getting banned from Voat to no surprise, which happened within days of voat opening. A year or two later, I made another account to see how the site was going, finding it was just one guy who spends the entirety of the day rambling to himself in the open chat client.
I don’t think these sites are around any longer and I expect lemmy to go down the same route soon.
thank you, that will be all.
Do you not like that answer? Or are you implying I am one of them, or at least empathetic?
I don’t need to imply that, liberals have a long history of working closely with nazis. that fact that you enjoy hanging out with them tells us everything we need to know about your character.
Communists also have a long history of working closely with nazis, such as Stalin invading Poland along with Nazi Germany.
Nor have I said that I enjoy hanging out with extremists. Nor am I a liberal. Please don’t make such assumptions about me, and instead maybe directly ask me for my views or for me to clarify?
yeah, but we’re not talking about communists, amigo. we’re talking about you, and how much you seem to hang around nazis. there’s this little thing called “personal responsibility”, which posits that Stalin doesn’t have shit to do with you being interested in neo-nazi websites.
I’m afraid you don’t understand my point.
My point is that you hold me accountable, falsely labelling me as a Nazi because I have interacted with extremists in the past. You hold liberals accountable for also collaborating with nazis, then surely you must also hold Stalin to this same level of accountability.
I also already explained my reasoning and that I obviously don’t agree with such extremists, so why are you still calling me a nazi?