• barrbaric [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Wellp, we tried, back to taking CEOs hostage and dangling them off a bridge until they give the workers what they want. shrug-outta-hecks

    (I know this will never happen, I just want to enjoy some cope biaoqing-copium)

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      Let me join biaoqing-copium

      Tbh while this is kinda scary, I do think it will lead to people becoming more militant/radicalized as the other comrade replied.

      There was someone on r/union who mentioned that his MAGA coworkers thought that the tariffs would increase their work, but instead they are facing layoffs and work stoppages they stopped wearing the or trump hats and are taking off their bumper stickers. Kinda gives me hope that more people will come over to the commie side. Or they just become more fascist I guess shrug-outta-hecks

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        my only hope is that this admin is so openly fascist there’s no where else to go in that direction (excluding shaving their head and becoming some gutter punk skinhead) every branch of American fascism (christian nationalists, nat cons, and yarvinists) are full integrated into maga. so if they abandon maga, the most they can do is go lone wolf against their own, go left, or totally disengage (disengagement is going to be getting closed off to most soon)

        basically, the fascism is already here and proving itself shit. worst case scenario is a new resurgent, Strasserist psuedo-socialism from the Tucker wing but i think that’s even weaker then we are right now. and it’s too embedded into mega as well, basically everyone has gone in HARD on this thinking it’s the one and only chance and blown their load

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          I would hope this is true but there are still a lot of true believers in Trump who I’ve met even recently, unfortunately. Purely anecdotal, though.

          I think they will still go for more extreme fascism in the future.

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            oh i don’t doubt the whole movement can shift further. i mean it is right now, just slower then it was earlier.

            it really comes down to how fast they destroy living conditions locally. for every “trump is my whole identity” fandom adherent you have a normie “i’m a conservative until something effects me”.

            it’s a big country with a huge armed population. if the true believers get reduced to some tiny percentage and try to genocide 75% of the population (all non-“heritage americans”) like they want to: it’s unprecedented. they don’t have the numbers

            only option would be a systemic nuclear carpet bombing of the whole nation (excluding their enclaves) or the movement to abandon everything and fall back into fortified micro-Israels and Gaza everyone else. either way the U.S. falls.

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              Yeah, definitely loving the California-Texas battle at the moment. Anything that furthers balkanization.

              I just don’t know yet if MAGA Trumpers will really reduce to such a small minority. I’m still very much in doubt that it’ll disappear but I agree their movement is slowing, I just think they’ll start accelerating further to the Right again when the conditions allow it. You’re right though that it eventually and inevitably lead to collapse of the Empire. I just hope not to die before it happens because of some dumbass fascist shit. Haha

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                i just hope it happens before i get too old and broken to be able to react. if it really takes a while i’ll be so old i won’t be a threat but it looks more like “old enough so that you can be easily hunted by fascist zoomers that see you as a big scary threat”

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                    7 days ago

                    i just want an exit strategy so i don’t get tortured to death or imprisoned. sorry if this is too grim. i’ve been on the inside of shit and will not go back alive

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      The workers have done it before and they’ll do it again. The only problem is life has to be míserable for them to start doing that again, so suffering will be guaranteed to go up first