• xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com
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    2 years ago

    They just eat and drink the stuff some random people they just made war against brought them. Smert!

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          2 years ago

          It is, but it highlights how “the free world” is a silly label. The world isn’t composed of good guys and bad guys like a children’s cartoon.

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            2 years ago

            It is tho. Kim Jon un is a literal walking cartoon as is Donald Trump.

            Also u’re using a non sequitur

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      2 years ago

      “The free world”? Seriously? It would help to not think of the world only in terms of heroes and villains.

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          2 years ago

          Many atrocities have been committed in the name of the free world, but sure you guys keep with the circlejerk if that makes you feel morally superior

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            2 years ago

            Thank god most of us have some sense and awareness to differentiate actions “in the name of the free world” from good and bad actors. Clearly this is from good actors as Putin is clearly an enemy of the free world. Saying otherwise means ignorance or being bad faith.

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              2 years ago

              I think you will do well to do with less certainties and interrogate the very essence of the concept of the “free world”, a term introduced in the Cold War to demonize communism and basically any challenge to US hegemony. Unfortunately todays polemical and self righteous western liberalism plays right into the hands of the alt-right and fascists in more ways than one. I personally worry more for what is happening in the West right now than what is happening in Russia/Ukraine, because the West is a lot more powerful and is itching for a larger military confrontation, while liberalism continues to fail more frequently back home except in minor wins on identity politics. In this climate I find it disturbing when people dig up Cold War terminology to creat camps and draw lines in the sand.

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              2 years ago

              This is part of the problem. That feeling of unexamined moral superiority that I am much afraid will lead to the downfall of western liberalism, its replacement with local fascists and all out war. But not enough people are willing to listen sadly.

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                2 years ago

                You’re making way too many assumptions and I think that’s part of why you’re not being well received.

                Can you examine your own certainty and superior tone when, to my knowledge, you haven’t asked a real question yet? You seem just know.

                And, no, you initial exclamation having question marks just makes it an incredulous exclamation. Not a question.

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                  Indeed, it was a rhetorical question. And it’s ok, I wasn’t expecting my comment to be well received, I was just hoping that at least some people reading this would ask themselves why Russia triggers Cold War reflexes and what those reflexes mean. I still hope for some diplomatic end to the war in Ukraine and the demonizing of one’s enemies only serves war.

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        2 years ago

        No one said “free world is blameless.”

        You inferred it somehow and railed against what no one said. Many do, however, identify most closely with nations not ruled by an autocrat or dictator.

        That the liberal countries are most likely to reject the invasion of another free country is not surprising and the “free world” is an apt descriptor for which countries are most likely to support Ukraine.

        But “free world” doesn’t mean blameless. No one asserted that.