Omnipotence does not require doing something. Billionaires have the capability to end world hunger. Yet they’re piling up more stacks of money. And Billionaires definitely exist.
I think the crux of your issue is viewing it from exclusively the Christian world view where everyone goes to heaven anyways because Jesus died for our sins. The Palestinians world view is that suffering being done to someone will be rewarded in the afterlife. And the person causing the suffering will be punished.
I never said omnipotence required doing something. You asked how God would know what would happen, and the answer is that God is omnipotent.
Besides, the Old testament, which all 3 abrahamic religions share, is full of stories of God directly interfering in the free will of man. If their God does exist, he is fully capable of stopping what’s happening.
By not interfering, he’s cool with babies being starved to death, and therefore a cunt.
But it’s all a moot point because God doesn’t exist and religion is just a tool for power and control.
It’s almost like free will by definition means that God doesn’t control the actions. Did God bomb those Palestinian kids or are humans choosing to do so?
Or are those humans forced to do so by deterministic nature, thus making their action morally neutral and not evil at all?
Omnipotence does not require doing something. Billionaires have the capability to end world hunger. Yet they’re piling up more stacks of money. And Billionaires definitely exist.
Yes, and we are all agreeing they are fuckers because of it. Why it is a problem to consider omnipotent god fucker because of the same logic?
If God created the universe then God would have given humanity more than any billionaire ever can let alone will.
It’s not possible to understand the Abrahamic religions which the Palestinians adhere to by cutting out the concept of an afterlife where good deeds and suffering will be rewarded and malice will be punished. That is the whole concept of a test.
Imagine if God said “I didn’t let you perform the test because I know the results, therefore you don’t need to undergo the test”. Then God sent people to heaven for their righteousness, or hell for sinning without them ever committing the good deeds or sins. Would that be fair?
We will certainly test you with a touch of fear and famine and loss of property, life, and crops. Give good news to those who patiently endure— who say, when struck by a disaster, “Surely to Allah we belong and to Him we will ˹all˺ return.” They are the ones who will receive Allah’s blessings and mercy. And it is they who are ˹rightly˺ guided.
Verse 156 is what you will hear quoted very frequently by Palestinians in videos after a disastrous moment.
I don’t think i will continue this conversation since you are giving me the unfalsifable orthodoxy loop here, and it’s getting out of topic, so i just say that everything that gives them hope and lessens their suffering in their tragedy is good for them and it’s understandable they resort to it.
The entire “free will” argument is nothing more than the Omnipotence paradox wrapped into a different jacket.
Omnipotence requires being able to do anything including, defying the concept of logic itself. The entire concept of God is by itself not logical, using arguments like “If there is an infinite past then we can never reach the present”.
Still the universe exists, so the concept of the beginning of time breaks all of logic.
I more meant the problem of evil than paradox of ominipotence.
Yes, all evidence points to god not existing. Abrahamic god just strikes me as particulary cruel in most denominations, definitely not something i would like to worship even if i had.
Because God is omnipotent.
Omnipotence does not require doing something. Billionaires have the capability to end world hunger. Yet they’re piling up more stacks of money. And Billionaires definitely exist.
I think the crux of your issue is viewing it from exclusively the Christian world view where everyone goes to heaven anyways because Jesus died for our sins. The Palestinians world view is that suffering being done to someone will be rewarded in the afterlife. And the person causing the suffering will be punished.
I never said omnipotence required doing something. You asked how God would know what would happen, and the answer is that God is omnipotent.
Besides, the Old testament, which all 3 abrahamic religions share, is full of stories of God directly interfering in the free will of man. If their God does exist, he is fully capable of stopping what’s happening.
By not interfering, he’s cool with babies being starved to death, and therefore a cunt.
But it’s all a moot point because God doesn’t exist and religion is just a tool for power and control.
Threw it into the AI and it told me that it’s a you problem https://quran.com/ya-sin/47-57
It’s strange how you’re trying to frame children starving to death as a good thing.
It’s strange how you’re trying to shove the blame on everything humans do onto God.
Consider reading and responding to the link.
It is on God. All of the suffering in the world is because the first humans he created didn’t use their “free will” exactly how he wanted them to.
That’s a pretty cunty thing to do.
It’s almost like free will by definition means that God doesn’t control the actions. Did God bomb those Palestinian kids or are humans choosing to do so?
Or are those humans forced to do so by deterministic nature, thus making their action morally neutral and not evil at all?
Can you prove free will exists? Also- if your god exists, and created those people that are killing innocents; yes. He is directly to blame.
get the fuck out of here, OH YOU ASKED AN AI DID YOU? COOL THANKS THATS SO INTERESTING
It’s so cool you can actually look up things efficiently these days instead of making up a strawman and then fighting it.
how dare you accuse me of making shit up while using the hallucination misinformation machine, you absolute dipshit
Did it hallucinate up a whole book?
Yes, and we are all agreeing they are fuckers because of it. Why it is a problem to consider omnipotent god fucker because of the same logic?
If God created the universe then God would have given humanity more than any billionaire ever can let alone will.
It’s not possible to understand the Abrahamic religions which the Palestinians adhere to by cutting out the concept of an afterlife where good deeds and suffering will be rewarded and malice will be punished. That is the whole concept of a test.
How very conveniently we can’t know the result of the test.
Imagine if God said “I didn’t let you perform the test because I know the results, therefore you don’t need to undergo the test”. Then God sent people to heaven for their righteousness, or hell for sinning without them ever committing the good deeds or sins. Would that be fair?
https://quran.com/2?startingVerse=155
Verse 156 is what you will hear quoted very frequently by Palestinians in videos after a disastrous moment.
I don’t think i will continue this conversation since you are giving me the unfalsifable orthodoxy loop here, and it’s getting out of topic, so i just say that everything that gives them hope and lessens their suffering in their tragedy is good for them and it’s understandable they resort to it.
The entire “free will” argument is nothing more than the Omnipotence paradox wrapped into a different jacket.
Omnipotence requires being able to do anything including, defying the concept of logic itself. The entire concept of God is by itself not logical, using arguments like “If there is an infinite past then we can never reach the present”.
Still the universe exists, so the concept of the beginning of time breaks all of logic.
I more meant the problem of evil than paradox of ominipotence.
Yes, all evidence points to god not existing. Abrahamic god just strikes me as particulary cruel in most denominations, definitely not something i would like to worship even if i had.