• porcupine@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 days ago

      The idea that a single mentally ill dipshit is the vanguard of fascism in an imperial settler colony being held at bay by the online defense of police officers and Donald Trump’s federal government is pretty fucking lib.

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        11 days ago

        The idea that a single fascist with a gun is anything but a fascist with a gun and shouldn’t be treated as a fascist with a gun is equally fucking lib shit.

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          Fortunately the only fascist with a gun in this case is the dead cop, but I’m so sorry that dead cops make you sad. You know literally nothing about the identity or motives of the shooter other than the fact that he killed a cop and attacked the a US federal government building. Maybe you’re just salty at the thought that some Facebook poisoned chud did more direct action than you’ll ever manage in your life?

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            11 days ago

            It is kind of funny that you did immediately default to defending the honor of the facebook anti vaxx vanguard like this. Are you gonna defend qanon next? maga?

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              Sure dude, you’re not mad, you’re laughing actually. You have precisely two pieces of information in this story: that a guy killed a cop and that a guy attacked a federal agency run by Donal Trump and RFK. Everything else you’ve said is pure speculative fantasy to justify your settler radlib worldview in which any act of material opposition to those people can only ever be “the real fascism”.

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                Oh no i am mad. It’s not haha funny that you leap to the defense of fascist brainworms. It is funny in the colloquial sense that it is a curiosity that I am seeing defenses here that no one is supporting adventurism while you’re not only doing that, but pretending that someone who had their brain replaced with a facebook feed (i.e. a fascist) going to do a mass shooting is engaging in meaningful direct action.

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                  no one is supporting adventurism while you’re not only doing that

                  Let me be clear: I am doing that. I think it’s cool and good as hell when people do adventurism, and so does every person on this site who won’t stop posting officer down and Luigi memes. I think adventurism is considerably less effective than well organized and well armed collective action, but it’s infinitely more effective than a hundred lifetimes spent posting on social media, holding signs at permitted rallies, or voting in bourgeois elections.

                  someone who had their brain replaced with a facebook feed (i.e. a fascist)

                  What actual evidence do you have for this? Did you just read a single line from CNN quoting an unnamed police source saying they’re guessing that the motive might be COVID-related, and then use that as a prompt to generate an entire assumed political worldview cobbled together from things you personally dislike to attribute to the guy? He was seen wearing a surgical mask by multiple witnesses. Even the third hand police speculation is that the shooter believed he was sick from getting a COVID vaccine. That pretty strongly suggests he was neither an antimasker nor an antivaxer. His family says he was suicidal, and law enforcement say he was “known to them” for reasons they’re not willing to talk about. How many times have we seen this exact scenario play out?

                  I don’t know for sure that this is another in a long line of blowback from law enforcement exploiting mental ill people to engineer mass shootings. I don’t know for sure that this guy didn’t vote Republican, chat with your uncle on Facebook, or whatever other banal shit you’re rounding up to “fascism”. I don’t know anything for sure about his motives and I don’t particularly need to, because it’s exceptionally easy for me to recognize that his actions resulted in a good thing without feeling any obligation to personally track down and co-sign every secret opinion that an anonymous corpse has ever had. I do know for sure what Donald Trump, RFK, and Kash Patel’s politics are, and in terms of what we’re rounding up to fascism, there is no comparison.

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                    10 days ago

                    I had to block these two turbolibs for my own sanity, but fucking thank you. A+ post

                    Would not be shocked if these two fomented the but-do-you-condemn-Luigi scolding session we had back in December