U.S. President Donald Trump is in Scotland Saturday to play golf, and is expected to hold trade talks with the UK Prime Minister Starmer and EU Commission President von der Leyen.
But that perspective matters a whole f** lot. Talking about a percentual mobilisation of people is quite relevant, you know, even if it’s harder to organise a protest in a territory as vast as USA.
Yeah people within a country will talk raw numbers, but it’s a fucking stupid way to compare mobilisation between countries. 100000 in the Scottish media looks a lot more impressive than 5m on an American news station. At this point I’m not sure wether your trolling or huffing solvents.
You stop being a fucking moron. Of course it’s a valid measure of public opinion and engagement. The point is to display force relative to the size of the entity being protested. Take the Serbian or Georgian protests. A whole lot more impressive. If you can’t see that no one can help you.
just an update for you since it’s so important that you’re goal posts are moved. multiple sources claim hundreds of protestors showed up in Edinburgh. I’ll (generously) top it out at 1000 protestors nationwide.
You stop being a fucking moron. Of course it’s a valid measure of public opinion and engagement. The point is to display force relative to the size of the entity being protested. Take the Serbian or Georgian protests. A whole lot more impressive. If you can’t see that no one can help you.
are you even trying? you’re just moving those goal posts now. they’re halfway across the parking lot now.
I don’t know what I expected out of you. I guess silence would have been nice. I don’t even expect a “you were right”. I mean it’d be nice, but I know your ego and pride won’t allow that to happen.
I guess just go crawl back under your bridge and block me?
How the fuck is that lying? I’m simply correctly claiming that it’s relevant to consider the size of a protest relative to the society or area where it takes place. If you’re too pea-brained to realise that no one can truly help you. Dunning-Kruger ass moron.
Protests are measured in raw numbers because if you said 1.4% of the population of the usa gave enough of a fuck to turn up, it would show just how little you people care about What’s happening in your country. And if you compare that to the protests Georgians had about the Russification of their government, they had raw numbers of around 169000 at the low end, but that’s over 4% of their population. So yeah if you want your passive population to seem politically engaged, by all means use the raw numbers, but nobody’s impressed when the survival of your country is on the line and only 1.4% can be bothered showing up.
just an update for you since it’s so important that you’re goal posts are moved. multiple sources claim hundreds of protestors showed up in Edinburgh. I’ll (generously) top it out at 1000 protestors nationwide.
You realise that Donald kiddie fiddler Trump isn’t the president of Scotland right? He’s objectively your fucking problem. You ought to be grateful for any foreign countries who want to help out. I never said there were proportionally more people protesting in Scotland.
If you look back at the comments, I’ve only ever argued with your position that any country that doesn’t field 5M protesters isn’t outperforming the states. Which, by the way, is still some grade A stupidity. I’ve no fucking idea how many people showed up, but as previously mentioned trump is definitely more of a problem for the USA than anyone else so I genuinely wouldn’t expect that many to show up.
However if the first minister of Scotland did even half the shit trump’s done, Edinburgh would fucking burn with the riots.
Stop fucking doing that, moderator! Silencing opinions is literally what fascists do, how the fuck do you expect to change shit when you refuse people to even speak their minds?
The guy’s obviously a doofus, by silencing them you are effectively protecting them from making assholes of themselves, while turning this shithole into another echo chamber.
You might as well be /r/conservatism, or /r/pyongyang, that’s what they do to dissenting opinion!
Of course numbers per capita make more sense. That’s been my point the whole time. I’m not trying to gaslight anyone. And you know sometimes the USA needs to be reminded that they aren’t “all that”, because apparently American exceptionalism extends to arguing about protest turn out with random people online.
yes, per capita. do you know why protests aren’t measured by per capita, right?
please tell me you understand why per capita is a bad metric to distinguish protests…
But that perspective matters a whole f** lot. Talking about a percentual mobilisation of people is quite relevant, you know, even if it’s harder to organise a protest in a territory as vast as USA.
stop being an idiot.
per capita matters when you’re dealing with inequalities or averages across a nation.
protests are measured by participants or volume. this is because the whole point of a protest is to convey a message by display of force.
you think someone will look at a protest and go, “looks like 1% of the population of the nation is here.”
Yeah people within a country will talk raw numbers, but it’s a fucking stupid way to compare mobilisation between countries. 100000 in the Scottish media looks a lot more impressive than 5m on an American news station. At this point I’m not sure wether your trolling or huffing solvents.
so now we’re talking about volume over mobilization.
so 5 million over 2100 cities isn’t impressive enough?
keep moving those goal posts troll.
5 million over 2100 cities holding signs and chanting on a Saturday isn’t impressive at all.
No Kings was a farce.
You stop being a fucking moron. Of course it’s a valid measure of public opinion and engagement. The point is to display force relative to the size of the entity being protested. Take the Serbian or Georgian protests. A whole lot more impressive. If you can’t see that no one can help you.
just an update for you since it’s so important that you’re goal posts are moved. multiple sources claim hundreds of protestors showed up in Edinburgh. I’ll (generously) top it out at 1000 protestors nationwide.
Scotland
in comparison to the US.
but hey, it’s not a competition.
When did I say otherwise? Of course you’re not gonna get mass protests in Scotland because a corrupted American rapist goes there surroundes by cops.
are you even trying? you’re just moving those goal posts now. they’re halfway across the parking lot now.
I don’t know what I expected out of you. I guess silence would have been nice. I don’t even expect a “you were right”. I mean it’d be nice, but I know your ego and pride won’t allow that to happen.
I guess just go crawl back under your bridge and block me?
either way, get wrecked dude.
How the fuck is that lying? I’m simply correctly claiming that it’s relevant to consider the size of a protest relative to the society or area where it takes place. If you’re too pea-brained to realise that no one can truly help you. Dunning-Kruger ass moron.
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what’s more impressive for a protest:
Jesus the next thing you’re going to tell me is that a pound of feathers is less than a pound of gold.
So you do admit it then and you’re just being a stupid c** for no reason. Great use of your time. Enjoy life
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What did I lie about exactly? Please do tell me.
Protests are measured in raw numbers because if you said 1.4% of the population of the usa gave enough of a fuck to turn up, it would show just how little you people care about What’s happening in your country. And if you compare that to the protests Georgians had about the Russification of their government, they had raw numbers of around 169000 at the low end, but that’s over 4% of their population. So yeah if you want your passive population to seem politically engaged, by all means use the raw numbers, but nobody’s impressed when the survival of your country is on the line and only 1.4% can be bothered showing up.
just an update for you since it’s so important that you’re goal posts are moved. multiple sources claim hundreds of protestors showed up in Edinburgh. I’ll (generously) top it out at 1000 protestors nationwide.
Scotland
in comparison to the US.
but hey, it’s not a competition.
You realise that Donald kiddie fiddler Trump isn’t the president of Scotland right? He’s objectively your fucking problem. You ought to be grateful for any foreign countries who want to help out. I never said there were proportionally more people protesting in Scotland.
If you look back at the comments, I’ve only ever argued with your position that any country that doesn’t field 5M protesters isn’t outperforming the states. Which, by the way, is still some grade A stupidity. I’ve no fucking idea how many people showed up, but as previously mentioned trump is definitely more of a problem for the USA than anyone else so I genuinely wouldn’t expect that many to show up.
However if the first minister of Scotland did even half the shit trump’s done, Edinburgh would fucking burn with the riots.
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Stop fucking doing that, moderator! Silencing opinions is literally what fascists do, how the fuck do you expect to change shit when you refuse people to even speak their minds?
The guy’s obviously a doofus, by silencing them you are effectively protecting them from making assholes of themselves, while turning this shithole into another echo chamber.
You might as well be /r/conservatism, or /r/pyongyang, that’s what they do to dissenting opinion!
Of course numbers per capita make more sense. That’s been my point the whole time. I’m not trying to gaslight anyone. And you know sometimes the USA needs to be reminded that they aren’t “all that”, because apparently American exceptionalism extends to arguing about protest turn out with random people online.
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