I saw this post titled “Scratch a anti-harm reductionist and a fascist bleeds” (https://lemmy.world/post/33320759)
I commented that “harm reduction” apparently means sending billions in weapons to israel while they commit genocide and shutting down campus protests speaking out against that genocide. I said that seemed pretty fascist to me.
Within an instant, they downvoted my post and banned me. Guess it’s my fault for posting in a circlejerk community, but I’m still scratching my head on how that makes me a tankie. Something tells me this mod would be calling in the tanks to suppress any dissent if they could.
PTB.
Setting aside the question of your true ideology, I don’t think people should be banned for their ideology. Bans should be based on behavior.
Ironically I hate tankies as much as anyone and I’m having a big fight with one right now but I still think they should be allowed to participate on the same footing as everyone as long as they follow the rules.
Edit: after reading further this is even worse because the rules are actually pretty much in line with my position. Tankies are explicitly allowed to participate as long as they follow the rules. So this isn’t even supported by anything other than impotent mod rage.
Ideology to some extent is behavior, or at least helps determine behavior, when people act in a manner consistent with their own ideological positions. I can see an appeal to “allow all ideas as long as they don’t make trouble”, but when the nature of most ideologies is to include something along the lines of “it is a morally good thing to spread this ideology to other people” to a lesser or greater extent, and some ideologies require harmful behavior for one to act consistently with it, the conclusion that seems obvious to me is that believing in certain ideologies is itself bad enough behavior for it to be justifiable to exclude those people from a given online community, because such a person will either cause trouble or be a hypocrite. And after all, ideology isn’t some immutable inherit trait, a person can change one’s ideology and people often do.
All that being said, that particular statement isn’t really a clear statement of ideology at all. I disagree with it’s implication, but all it really does is demonstrate either a misunderstanding of what harm reduction means, or a viewpoint that is too black-and-white to allow for it, which can be a feature of too many ideological positions to narrow it down.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with you. !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works allows Tankies to comment and engage, some of them do, but only if they follow the rules.
Most of the time they don’t bother with the community though because their views and extremism don’t hold up to scrutiny.
I’m sure it’s not because of the mods’ behavior.
The modlog is open, and the majority of bans are temporary, you can verify it yourself
I’ve interacted with your fellow mod plenty in the past to know everything he’s about.
He shrieks “tankie” at everyone who disagrees with him, particularly at anyone who disagrees with his support for netanyahu’s genocide. And you made sure he got to keep his banhammer to use as a disagree button.
Don’t forget screaming fascist for wanting Democrats to win against Trump like he did to @Return2Ozma@lemmy.world
And I’ve since reversed those bans and reminded him of the rules. if you have something with him, take it up with him.
He’s not going to stop banning people for disliking genocide.
I have. Got me banned from most of startrek.website. He got super pissed off when I said that centrists hate communists so much because they’re still salty about the fall of berlin.
Well we’ll just have to wait and see then
And that’s how you end up with a Nazi bar.
Yeah I’ve heard the proverb but I think it’s not that hard to set behavior based rules that exclude Nazis.
Of course not, but what about the other Nazi-adjacent pieces of shit like Tankies?
Sadly some fash boot lickers are fine with a Tankie-Bar.
Had to laugh a bit at your modlog history of trying to dictate who are the bad trans vs the good trans.
No one is bad trans.
Tankies are bad people.
well I’m just going to continuing hanging out at the bad kids table since there’s a ton of trans people on hexbear.
The nice thing about .ml is I get to be federated with both blahaj and hexbear, I’m a centrist like that.
Average horseshoe theorist. Previously.