All from in this thread in !world@lemmy.world about a chant at a British music festival where an artist said “death, death to the IDF”.

After other users were quoting that chant in the comments and had comments removed and banned, the hero of our story, @theacharnian@lemmy.ca (appearing as “acargitz”) pointed out that under international law, fighting an occupying force is legitimate. But apparently not under world news rules, as their removed comments and the many explanations from mods make clear in the thread.

Equally against the rules is the call for the eradication of an organisation or business, even without an explicit call to violence against individual members of the business.

In the same thread: user @DeathToTheIDF@lemmings.world had comments removed for being anti-American “(again)”, though I couldn’t see the first time. It’s not even clear to me how the removed comments were anti-American.

Bonus points for the “DC Comics” removal reason. Though this seems to be incompetence, rather than malice.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
    12·
    3 days ago

    Let me try with a logic gate puzzle:

    When any country gets attacked, they have a right to respond. We can agree on that, yes?

    Israel is a country.
    Israel got attacked by Iran.

    Both indisputable facts.

    So the response is, Israel has the right to defend itself.

    Unless you want to argue:

    1. Other countries have the right to self defense, but not Israel.

    or:

    1. Israel is not a country.

    or:

    1. Iran never attacked Israel.

    Then your argument doesn’t make sense. You’re trying to twist it into being about the Genocide in Gaza, that’s not what I’m talking about.

    I’m talking about Israel’s legitimate response to having rockets fired at them from Iran and Iran’s legitimate response to being bombed by Israel.

    When a country gets attacked, they have the right to respond. You could even take it a step further and say they have an obligation to respond. If your country gets attacked repeatedly and you never respond, do you even HAVE a country at that point?

      • jordanlund@lemmy.world
        13·
        3 days ago

        Read again:

        Countries that get attacked are allowed to defend themselves. That has nothing to do with perpetuating a genocide, which Israel is doing in Gaza.

        It DOES have to do with being attacked by Iran.

        One is a legitimate defense, one is an illegal war of aggression. I really don’t think you can tell the difference.

        • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          3 days ago

          Countries that get attacked are allowed to defend themselves. That has nothing to do with perpetuating a genocide, which Israel is doing in Gaza.

          centrists are looking at the genocide in Gaza and are using “Israel has a right to protect itself” IN THAT CONTEXT to justify the genocide in Gaza. You know this.

          • jordanlund@lemmy.world
            14·
            2 days ago

            They never used it to justify they genocide, they DID use it to justify continuing to support Israel.

            As long as Iran keeps rattling the saber about wanting to destroy Israel, we will keep funding and supplying Israel, regardless of the absolutely evil shit they keep doing.

            Israel exists, largely, because of the United States and no US President will ever walk away from that.

            • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4·
              2 days ago

              They never used it to justify they genocide

              Considering that they used it to describe netanyahu’s actions in Gaza, they were doing absolutely nothing else and you know it.

              we will keep funding and supplying Israel, regardless of the absolutely evil shit they keep doing.

              Gloat more.

              and no US President will ever walk away from that.

              Oh, you did gloat more.

        • FelixCress@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 days ago

          Read again. Slowly:

          1. Israeli “defence” is a code sentence for aggression and genocide. Like “final solution” was previous nazis’ code sentence for genocide.

          2. Palestinians have right to defend themselves by killing (and making calls to kill) IDF aggressors. This is their right under international law.

          You therefore should remove any references to Israeli “right to defence”. Unless of course you are either:

          • genocide apologist or
          • too stupid to understand the above

          So, which one is it sweetie?