Ukraine says it can’t stop Russian strikes because Starshield is limited again
arstechnica.com
Report: Ukraine suspects speeds limits are intended to help Russia in peace talks.
    • Jiral@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 hours ago

      I am not sure about the “temporary” and “limited” though. Also, it is not just about Ukraine. The Russian regime obviously wants to talk about splitting up entire Europe between itself and the US, without anyone from the EU at the table, obviously.

      • TotalSonic@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 hour ago

        Exactly, I think we are in agreement here - a truce handing Crimea, Donbas, and Luhansk to Russia as their newly undisputed territories would most certainly not create a political atmosphere stopping any future Russian actions over territories in Moldova, Georgia, Estonia and even into Latvia, Lithuania & Poland.

        • Jiral@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 hour ago

          Especially if part of the deal is a amputating NATO in all the countries Russia plans to invade next.

  • DarkCloud@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 hour ago

    There’s other providers. ViaSat is one. Amazon Leo is another. So this is being announced as a message to Musk/Trump/Putin. But I don’t know, perhaps Trump has organized competitors be turned lff, or forbidden them?

    • MouldyCat@feddit.ukEnglish
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      33 minutes ago

      I’ve seen Eutelsat mentioned as a European competitor, wiki says they mostly handle TV transmissions but “also serve […] mobile communications, Internet backbone connectivity and broadband access for terrestrial, maritime and in-flight applications”.

      I’m not sure why they wouldn’t be able to provide Ukraine what they need, I don’t know if they are at the same technical level as starlink or not. That wiki page also says “As of March 2025, the company stated that it offers the same capacities as Starlink in Europe. However the operation of Eutelsat terminals is many times more expensive than that of Starlink.”

  • chleb@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    8 hours ago

    another reason on why we should not trust and rely on big tech and should restrict their power.

  • Seralth@piefed.seralth.comEnglish
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    13 hours ago

    A non American company really needs to hurry the fuck up and step up. Cause holy fuck I’m tired of my nations rich and stupid fucking everyone over.

    Let some other nations rich and stupid do the fucking for a while.

    • M137@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      1 hour ago

      You can’t just materialise that sort of satellite network in a few years. It’s a stupid amount of satellites which means a stupid amount of work and money. And when it’s many countries working together instead of a private company in cahoots with the government of one of the richest countries in the world it takes a lot more time.
      Just being realistic here, I deeply want it to happen right fucking now but that just can’t be.

    • schipelblorp@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      6 hours ago

      Europe is committed to it’s own sattelite network, but I think the first launch is scheduled for 2029. Pretty much the entire world is scrambling to get away from entanglements in US system, including payments separate from Visa / Mastercard and weaponry without a lick of US intellectual property.

      • Jiral@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 hour ago

        Indeed. There is a gap filling network that went into operation this year too GOVSATNET, but I assume it can’t compensate for those high bandwidth services.

    • Teknikal@anarchist.nexusEnglish
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      9 hours ago

      Weirdly just before seeing this I saw a thread in reddit claiming Ukraine already replaced it. Looking back at it though it only links to a YouTube video so it’s probably nonsense.

        • M137@lemmy.todayEnglish
          1·
          1 hour ago

          How do you not understand the meaning of the word nationalize?

          My gut reaction is that you’re American and the classic ignorant and dumb so you think Europe is a country.

        • stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          14 hours ago

          Europe is not a country.

          Also having the EU run startlink for Ukraine seems like a terrible idea, support for Ukraine is wavering across several countries.

          I’d rather a specific nation that has shown willing to support Ukraine in the long run to run it, Sweden, Finland and Norway are good candidates.

          • Jiral@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            1 hour ago

            That kind of infrastructure is too massive for those countries. EU is the best bet. The EU will run it, but on behalf of its member states and a major stake holder is Poland. If Poland starts serving Russian interests all is lost anyway.

        • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
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          11 hours ago

          Nah, United Nations, in a group where historically defined countries do NOT have veto power. It’s a global ressource, so it should be under global control.

  • luckybart@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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    14 hours ago

    If one was trying to pretend that Russia were in charge here, while not being too overt about it… How would they do this differently?

    It’s important to remember the baseline while the zone is flooded.

    • Taldan@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 hours ago

      Technically the US government does retain legal control over Starshield. Whether or not they have material control is unclear

      • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caEnglish
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        2 hours ago

        Of course they have material control. Musk doesn’t have a private army. Unfortunately the gov’t is working for and with Musk.

        • 8oow3291d@feddit.dkEnglish
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          1 hour ago

          Exactly. The Trump administration is fully responsible for this, legally and morally. And Republicans in Congress are also fully responsible, for failing to impeach Trump and Hegseth over this.