• Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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    Why are the US even hosting this event? They don’t care about football and seemingly they don’t care about tourism anymore.

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    I can’t speak for other countries, but at the world cup in Germany, your ticket to the stadium was your ticket for public transit, and it was all inclusive.

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        It’s a lack of joined up thinking is what it is. Surely the US want as many people as possible at the tournaments (or at least city officials do, it’s anyone’s guess what the admin think is going on), the amount of money tourists pay to stay in a hotel will far exceed the amount of money they pay on these over inflated public transit tickets. So make public transit affordable, so they actually come to the event, stay in the hotel, and spend money in the local economy.

        Or you can try and price gouge them on a bus ticket and they won’t come. Now you’ve made no money at all, well done.

        The US’s problem isn’t that it’s a hyper capitalist country, it’s a hyper capitalist country run by MBA business study incompetents who only care about chasing short term profits at the expense of long-term profits.

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      I think it was the same in Russia, it included the visa and public transit, or maybe you could buy a package that included all? 🤔

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          Yes you are right, I just asked my friend who attended

          You displayed a fifa credential on a lanyard and you could ride long distance trains between host cities and local public transit for free

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    Compared to Canada 2010 Olympics in Vancouver, where your event ticket got you on the busses or Skytrain for free.

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    FIFA, in their infinite wisdom, made the decision to have all the parking around MetLife Stadium used for (paid) fan and merch space. MetLife is primarily built for car traffic, so this is a disaster waiting to happen. Yet another example of their greed and hubris. This was so poorly thought out.

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    so many millions angry, but not angry enough to rise up en masse and remove thr thorn

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        not here, no. but whats happening here is also being born in other countries. just as they expect us to fight it off here, i expect them to fight it off there for the same reasons

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          Other countries still have the rule of law so rising up isn’t required. Turkey (I have no idea how it’s supposed to be spelt now Tuekïë?) managed to get rid of their dictator by just voting him out.

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    These costs should be borne by the organization that is earning money out of these events, which is FIFA. It should not always be the host cities that take on all the expenses,” Gogishvili said, noting the soccer body’s expected $13 billion revenue from 2023-26.

    Huge events like this and the Olympics cost local communities a ton of money.

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      And possibly a lot of costs on unused big new shiny infrastructure after the event.

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        All the World Cup games are being played in NFL stadiums in the US and existing soccer stadiums in Canada and Mexico. As far as I know there isn’t much new infrastructure being built for this one. The Olympics, on the other hand, have an obscene amount of specialized infrastructure that gets built and is typically abandoned after the games.

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      in the twin cities of minnesota, there was 500+ miles of tracks, nearly 1000 streetcars, and an annual ridership of 200 million. that’s equivalent to every single person that lived there making at least six trips per week, every single week. (modern day metro transit serves over 2.5 million people and has an annual ridership, bus and light rail, of about 45 million)

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    Yeah, I saw that New York/New Jersey transit will be absurdly expensive for getting to MetLife stadium. Everyone is gouging for the World Cup.

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      FIFA is welcome to make transportation affordable, rather than being a drain on the local economies (and profiting in the billions.) On the other hand, those that can afford a match ticket can afford to spend 1% of that to get to the match.

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        Increasing bus ticket prices from $12.50 to $100 is not FIFA’s decision. Also, most sane countries use the event as an excuse to invest in public transport and general cleanup of the area for the public good years into the future. The US are the only ones so shortsighted about this stuff.

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          It kind of was. NJ was supposed to be reimbursed for the extra costs. FIFA did not hold up their end, so NJ raised prices.

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          Also, most sane countries use the event as an excuse to invest in public transport and general cleanup of the area

          Yeah but remember we’re talking about the USA here.

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          I didn’t mean to imply that it’s FIFA’s call, but their profits would not be greatly diminished if they were to cover those costs. I agree about the proper course of action, but would never expect that to happen here in the US. It wasn’t a good call to host here to begin with. The infrastructure isn’t there, and didn’t magically appear in the meantime.

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          I’m still not saying that they do, but they could certainly afford to pick up the tab. And it’s primarily trains at issue here.

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    The $95 bus fare was never going to break the bank, Phillips-Hunter knows, but he and so many other Scots are already paying huge sums to see their men’s team compete in the World Cup for the first time in 28 years. Phillips-Hunter estimates it will take him two years to pay off the credit card debt he’s taking on for his six-day trip to the U.S., including the $1,350 he spent on a ticket for the Scotland-Morocco match.

    How could a 6 day event be worth debt that would take 2 years to pay off?

    People in the US generally don’t care about soccer, so they wouldn’t see the value in eating the cost for people to come here and use up a considerable amount of infrastructure.

    I like soccer, but not enough to watch it (or any other sports). If the burden is so great on the cities, then the ones who make the most should offset the cost. But then how would those that make the most…make the most?

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      No bus costs $95/person to operate, especially when running at capacity. Its just gouging, plain and simple.

      You know its gouging because these trips already operate daily at $10-20/person, so its a 5x-10x markup for the same service offered the day before to literally anyone but the captive audience.

      That’s explorative, and should not be part of our infrastructure like public transit systems, regardless of who it serves.