• imahappyguy@lemmy.world
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    All right. I really like religious studies, I’m a Christian, although it goes much, much deeper than that. I’m gonna need a reason from Christ himself justifying your beliefs.

    Now, regardless of nothing of the sort being mentioned by the Christ, why would you, a self-proclaimed proponent of loving everyone (Christian), insist on using rhetoric that you surely know is insulting and degrading to a group of people? Was it not Christ that said, if you see your brother stumble, first go to him? Then his family? It seems, in your haste judgments you’ve skipped some steps.

    Lastly, this is why the western church is dying. Apostle Paul warned of things not in the Gospel dividing the Church. As such, you have not heeded his words. Christians casting harsh judgments, with condescension and arrogance is precisely why people hate us. And they are right to. You would be well to learn, and praise in it. You are a Christian, start acting like it.

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      Please see the Christian Existentialist philosophy I write and preach in Austin (link in profile). In the true Kierkegaardian sense, we must find God’s reflection in outer reality, meditate on it within our Will (or Dasein if you prefer Heidegger), and then reflect it out back into the world as decisive action. That is how we give up the original sin of free will and perform God’s Will. Also God’s direct commands let us suspend the ethical, even his commandments, to perform what must be done. This is shown in the story of Abraham and Isaac, and proved out to be true by Kierkegaard in his masterwork Fear and Trembling. Most Christian Existentialists agree that there is direct evidence that God intended for homosexuality to be fine, but not transgenderism as it is not reflected by science in any human genetics.

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        No wonder the US is such a shitstain if you are a moderate, democratic voter. All this religious bullshit is what is the undoing of what Americans perceive as freedom and democracy. There is no god, there is no Jesus. Christianity is the root of all evil, greed, jealousy, gluteny, war, millions and millions of deaths. It was an concept taken up by Constantine and later Charlemagne to control the peasant population and enforce as law by force and violence. Just like the current US regime is trying to do with fucking prayer at the Pentagon and claiming death to Islam. People like you are delusional.

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            How’s that unchecked immigration working for you with the Muslim rape gangs?

            An American “centrist,” everybody.

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            That is another thing that Christians are good at: empathy, caring and understanding. Oh and buying into all the propanda that is being spoon fed to you by the selected sources in your bubble. Just like religion: never let a bad story get in the way of the truth.

            BTW ask any average European about nietzsche or sartre and you’ll get a blank stare. At least we are taught about this in school, unlike the US where anything that might challenge the status quo is being banned (books) and bibles and commandments are taken precedent. At least we were never taught any religious beliefs because Europe takes separation between church and state seriously.

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        I am well aware of Kierkegaard. I said I am really into religious studies, so I’m a little insulted. Taking a philosopher’s ideas and extracting that much from it, when his main point was worry about your own shit, and twisting it into your dogma is the same thing the western church does every Sunday.

        How can you claim knowledge when the breadth of knowledge is only from lived experience? Your lived experience. By doing this you are disregarding one of the core tenants of Kierkegaard. Notwithstanding, you are still disregarding the second greatest commandment; love your neighbor. This is not neighborly. If you have a problem, and solving that problem requires you to hurt someone, don’t. Words can hurt and yours have. That is above all else. Apologize for any harm your words have caused, and just go on your way, brother.

        Edit: I would like to add, deigning free will as a sin is a gross misinterpretation of the Genesis and a bad one at that. It ignores broad strokes of history and theology that can’t be dismissed as a sin of free will.

        Edit edit: Kierkegaard’s ideas aren’t even super original. It takes a lot of Greek philosophy and puts a Christian spin on it.

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            Shame, I really wanted him to start getting into the really weird shit on his WordPress site. For the interested, Christian Existentialism can be summed up today by, I’m gonna say I’m dedicating my life to G-d so everything I do is now justified because I’m letting Him do it through me. What a joke.

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                To be fair, I was perhaps to harsh in my hastened words. Christian Extensialism, at its true core is that G-d is within each of us and we can open ourselves up to Him and His Will. That will being, in understanding to the self. You should see where this leads; those who choose to believe in ideologues, are misguided at best, or knowingly engaging in the horrors of the world with all its hate and malice.

                It’s merely a tool to help guide your spiritual life to something divine and beautiful and loving, but is commonly twisted, as is everything in life, to conform to a predetermined set of ideals and justify wicked actions. More accurately, it gives the self more power and condescension towards others in not seeing the truth. Thus, making them exclusive and special.

                That would be the difference between him and me. I believe no one is special. No one is exalted above the other and no government has authority over its people. Authority comes from G-d alone and I act out His divine love each day. I’m also susceptible towards my own biases and hastened anger, but I recognize it and point towards my faults as a sign of who I was and how I am yearning to be a better person of love and care.

                I don’t know mate, I’m just a 33 year old stoner, who has been blessed, more than I should, with a beautiful wife and family. I have experienced more love and acceptance through them than I ever thought possible. It beckons me to love everyone unconditionally like they love me. Like He above loves us. I just want us all to love each other, regardless of any petty physicalities we put on each other. We are all human beings created in the loving image of our Maker. How could that not just be enough? Is there any more reason needed to love our fellow man?

                The most beautiful thing we can do for our fellow humans is allow them to be heard. This does not exclude them from dissent, as well it shouldn’t. I hope Juan reconsiders his ideologies, as I personally think they bring harm, but I love him regardless and wish him well and I pray for divine love to flow through him, as I do everyone. Which, I’m sure he does, as any act of love is divine. However, I hope he learns to love everyone and recognize the harm that language can cause. A still tongue is more valuable than gold.

                Anyway, thanks for reading this, if you did. I’m just a man shouting into the ether, hoping my words can make a positive impact across the world. I love y’all, and all y’all have a blessed day.

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                  Can’t be tolerant of intolerant people. That said, it should be enough and what you wrote is what a lot of people should aspire toward, plus or minus the god thing depending on preference I suppose.

                  I did read it, and thanks for writing it.

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            Seems like someone isn’t used to being challenged by people who actually know what they’re talking about

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              If it were a fox news interview, dude would have just been getting more loud and interrupting, man I love written text.