I just looked her up on Wikipedia. It seems she secured the nomination without being contested. Idk, feels like as progressives we should take some responsibility if no one even ran against her. Giving up isn’t virtuous
Yeah, this is why I’ve been telling “leftists” that giving up on the system entirely is a terrible idea and that encouraging others to do so is asinine.
You want to continue electing corporatist democrats and fascist republicans in order to further destabilize the country with the largest nuclear stockpile in the world? Instead of electing progressives who would actually try to correct course?
Then you are a saying you like suffering and it makes you a sadomasochist that didnt ask for consent from your kink partners as you push your fetish on the world.
Whether you’re American or not, this will hurt you too. America collapsing would have incredible ripples to the rest of the world. Entire economies would collapse. That’s the best case, assuming the collapse of the US also isn’t preceded by invasions of other countries, which is likely. In addition, assuming you care about people, there would be a massive amount of suffering, in the US and elsewhere. Also, wherever you are, your government would probably start spending money on the outcome, whatever that is, so it’d effect your taxes as well, if you’re purely selfish and that’s the only thing that matters to you.
If collapse is what it comes to then that’s what it comes to. Wishing for it is fucked up though. It’s probably about the worst outcome for everyone possible, except for maybe empires who want to come in and claim the resources. That won’t help you, but I guess it’ll help whatever empire you’re supporting.
Liberals should know all about that, seeing as their voter base easily dwarfs the leftists theyre always griping about not voting (even though we do). Blame white liberals, they’re the perpetual disappointment that gets conveniently ignored every time y’all got a bone to pick over your party’s constant floundering
So does that mean we can blame him for being a milquetoast neoliberal, or does he get to play the race card since the other commenter said we should blame “white liberals”?
Oh I was just being silly and making fun of dropping the race card. Like how people will then say why does it have to be about race when in reality it is always about race and sex for that matter.
I don’t think anyone is saying you can’t have the opinion that the minority leader is a wishy washy flim-flan man who serves corporate overlords. I think this is a valid but probably reductionist viewpoint.
I think bring up his race was a predictable response from someone who is pushing back against someone singling out whites. I think it is fair but obviously a little agonistic.
Honestly the original poster and many other people may or may not be racists and may or may not know it. If they weren’t being racist then they could of just been repeating what they heard or even misspoke.
You never really know unless they confirm. And even then that is not the end of it. Just because someone is racist or holds a racist belief doesn’t mean they always have to.
Absolutely. But he’s an elected official, im speaking specifically of voters. White libs consistently do not show up to the polls (doubly so for white men)
White libs consistently do not show up to the polls
Oh fuck off, as if leftists consistently show up to vote. Who was it again who decided to boycott the election in 2024 and helped trump get elected because they couldn’t hold their nose and vote for the person who wasn’t perfect but also want a fascist?
(doubly so for white men)
Just stop with this cheap, worn-out virtue signal. You’re not scoring any points. No one thinks you’re morally superior just because you use “white men” as a punching bag on the internet.
There’s far more nuance than that to every situation, and what you’re doing is both racist and sexist. So unless you can cite some reputable statistics that show a disproportionate amount of non-voting eligible voters are white men, just stop.
Did the math for you. 80% of self identified US leftists vote. White libs alone nearly double the amount of leftists in america. The amount of registered white libs that don’t show up to vote is close to the total amount of leftists in the country. If white liberals showed up to the polls as consistently as leftist did, kamala would’ve won by a landslide
Vote blue no matter who!
I just looked her up on Wikipedia. It seems she secured the nomination without being contested. Idk, feels like as progressives we should take some responsibility if no one even ran against her. Giving up isn’t virtuous
Yeah, this is why I’ve been telling “leftists” that giving up on the system entirely is a terrible idea and that encouraging others to do so is asinine.
What if we want you to collapse as a nation?
You want to continue electing corporatist democrats and fascist republicans in order to further destabilize the country with the largest nuclear stockpile in the world? Instead of electing progressives who would actually try to correct course?
You clearly haven’t thought very deeply on this.
The sooner you crumble, the sooner we can fix things. There is no future with America anymore.
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Then you are a saying you like suffering and it makes you a sadomasochist that didnt ask for consent from your kink partners as you push your fetish on the world.
Go fuck off?
Whether you’re American or not, this will hurt you too. America collapsing would have incredible ripples to the rest of the world. Entire economies would collapse. That’s the best case, assuming the collapse of the US also isn’t preceded by invasions of other countries, which is likely. In addition, assuming you care about people, there would be a massive amount of suffering, in the US and elsewhere. Also, wherever you are, your government would probably start spending money on the outcome, whatever that is, so it’d effect your taxes as well, if you’re purely selfish and that’s the only thing that matters to you.
If collapse is what it comes to then that’s what it comes to. Wishing for it is fucked up though. It’s probably about the worst outcome for everyone possible, except for maybe empires who want to come in and claim the resources. That won’t help you, but I guess it’ll help whatever empire you’re supporting.
Lemmings outside VA may not know that Spanberger is a Democrat.
I did lol
Progressives are done holding their nose to vote. Dems about to find out the hard way. Again.
Yeah. Abstaining from voting always bring results /s
Liberals should know all about that, seeing as their voter base easily dwarfs the leftists theyre always griping about not voting (even though we do). Blame white liberals, they’re the perpetual disappointment that gets conveniently ignored every time y’all got a bone to pick over your party’s constant floundering
Can we blame Hakeem Jeffries too for being a milquetoast corporatist neoliberal? Or is it just the white liberals that we can blame?
Foul! Everyone knows politics isn’t about race /S
So does that mean we can blame him for being a milquetoast neoliberal, or does he get to play the race card since the other commenter said we should blame “white liberals”?
Oh I was just being silly and making fun of dropping the race card. Like how people will then say why does it have to be about race when in reality it is always about race and sex for that matter.
I don’t think anyone is saying you can’t have the opinion that the minority leader is a wishy washy flim-flan man who serves corporate overlords. I think this is a valid but probably reductionist viewpoint.
I think bring up his race was a predictable response from someone who is pushing back against someone singling out whites. I think it is fair but obviously a little agonistic.
Honestly the original poster and many other people may or may not be racists and may or may not know it. If they weren’t being racist then they could of just been repeating what they heard or even misspoke.
You never really know unless they confirm. And even then that is not the end of it. Just because someone is racist or holds a racist belief doesn’t mean they always have to.
I just get tired of this same old pattern:
Person 1: *talks shit about “white people” as a broad category, blames everything on “white people”
Person 2: asks about counterexample involving non-white person
Person 1: “Why are you bringing race into this? Stop being racist!”
It honestly feels like baiting/entrapment, but I’ll never stop calling it out anyway.
Absolutely. But he’s an elected official, im speaking specifically of voters. White libs consistently do not show up to the polls (doubly so for white men)
Oh fuck off, as if leftists consistently show up to vote. Who was it again who decided to boycott the election in 2024 and helped trump get elected because they couldn’t hold their nose and vote for the person who wasn’t perfect but also want a fascist?
Just stop with this cheap, worn-out virtue signal. You’re not scoring any points. No one thinks you’re morally superior just because you use “white men” as a punching bag on the internet.
There’s far more nuance than that to every situation, and what you’re doing is both racist and sexist. So unless you can cite some reputable statistics that show a disproportionate amount of non-voting eligible voters are white men, just stop.
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Did the math for you. 80% of self identified US leftists vote. White libs alone nearly double the amount of leftists in america. The amount of registered white libs that don’t show up to vote is close to the total amount of leftists in the country. If white liberals showed up to the polls as consistently as leftist did, kamala would’ve won by a landslide
Your math was terribly flawed and I already broke down why. I’m not going to repeat it here.
Blaming Kamala’s loss on liberals not showing up to vote while claiming leftists did their part is fucking wild.
Were you fucking sleeping through all the “boycott the vote” astroturfing from the left? It hasn’t even stopped!
Not abstaining, just not voting blue no matter who
As the French, who gifted that utter mouth-breather of a country with the very concept of modern democracy, would say; “Plus ça change”.