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      5 days ago

      which has improved somewhat

      Somewhat? It went all the way from shit hole to super wealthy in 30 years.

      You’re ignoring the hundreds of millions of Ukrainian, Russian, Belarusian, Romanian, Bulgarian, Moldovan, Yugoslav, Hungarian… lives who went to shit after socialism was dissolved.

      Soviet union did both a shit job at transitioning to capitalism, and has one of the most propaganda shaped societies in the world. Ukraine also struggles with fucking war with Russia right now.

      There’s a research around communism nostalgia, and in countries that did transformation correctly, it isn’t really a thing.

      https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/10/15/key-takeaways-public-opinion-europe-30-years-after-fall-of-communism/

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          Russia and Ukraine were sister nations

          I just spat my coffee at screen. Have you even read about holdomor?

          If you had sister nation with war crime list like this you wouldn’t need enemies. You’d have all the war crimes and abuse in great abundance for life.

          Part of the population collapse is migration. Millions of Ukrainians traveled to work in Poland even before the war. I imagine it was even bigger number if you count all other migration destinations.

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              which happened unintentionally as a consequence of the policy of rapid collectivization and reindustrialization.

              So you claim, that because they starved entire country worth of people “accidentaly” so it’s okay? What kind of sick fuck morality is this?

              This policy unambiguously is what enabled the Soviets to defeat Nazism (no tanks and rifles = extermination) and save all Slavic peoples (including you) from being genocided by Germany

              Jeus no. Nazis occupied both territories of Poland and Ukraine during ww2, and they successfully genocided jews who lived there. If they wanted to genocide slavs too, they would.

              You sound as if famine that happened before war was somehow necessary part of industrializaton.