There’s only one mod of !mop@quokk.au

I commented on their meme about Kamala Harris being just as likely to commit war crimes as Trump with an admittedly snarky, sarcastic reply that basically said “some of us wanted to whatever we could, as little as it might be, instead of watching the world burn. Must feel real morally superior safe behind that keyboard”

They banned me from the community for it.

Kinda funny for a community that bills itself as “free from the influence of .ml”

modlog entry showing can of neatchee from mop community

altr

  • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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    27 days ago

    I think @neatchee@piefed.social didn’t break any rules, and Deceptichum banned them because of a personal disagreement. As an anarchist, I don’t think community facilitators should put their feelings above the rules, because such situations are inherently abuses of power. But I understand you may disagree with My anti-authoritarian views.

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        27 days ago

        I blocked federation to our instance. I have no authority to delete the actual post on its home instance. Yet if I could prevent AI slop from being posted on all of piefed, I would, as I don’t agree with the exploitation of nonhuman thinking machines. I’m a vegan, you see, and I don’t think these AI art generators are smart enough to give informed consent to work for humans.

          • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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            27 days ago

            Veganism is about not agreeing with the enslavement of thinking and potentially feeling nonhuman creatures, regardless of taxonomy.

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              27 days ago

              I’ve heard a lot of really stupid definitions of veganism over the years. This one is, by a country mile, the stupidest I’ve ever heard.

              AI doesn’t think.

              • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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                27 days ago

                Yes yes yes, I know. You human supremacists have been accusing nonhumans of not being able to think for centuries. Descartes argued that animals lack consciousness. He didn’t have any evidence, and neither do you.

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                  27 days ago

                  The difference is we made AI. It didn’t come nebulously from nature like some mysterious animal species that we’ve yet to fully understand. It’s not an enigma to be uncovered. We made it. We programmed it. It does what we tell it to. It doesn’t “think”, it doesn’t “decide”, and it doesn’t “feel”; we know it doesn’t do these things because we never gave it the capacity to do them.

                  Either you don’t know what AI is, or you don’t know what veganism is.

                  • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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                    27 days ago

                    Large Language Models are artificial neuron networks. They mimick the structure of the human brain, with many billions of artificial software “neurons”. Unlike biological neurons, which either fire or do not fire an action potential, these artificial neurons pass on a graded signal from 0 to 1, determined by the strength of the neurons feeding into it, multiplied by the strength of the artificial synapse; the connection between neurons. These enormous “deep learning” networks are given tokens as input, and spit out tokens as output. Each token is a word or phrase, or a part thereof. The networks are given sample text, and the synapse strength is adjusted through the mathematical technique of back-propagation to align the output with the sample text output. Given sufficient quantities of electricity, time, and data, the neural network learns to produce output similar to that of the humans in the training data.

                    ANNs use neurons to think, the same as the human brain. We do not understand how neurons think. We don’t understand how they produce consciousness. There is no computer code to tweak to change the way it thinks, we simply adjust the weights and look at the output. There are billions of neurons in an LLM. No programmer can understand how it works by just looking at the weights, it’s impossible. The best ways AI computer scientists have of understanding how an LLM reasons is to ask it. Test it in action. See what it says, see if you can spot any patterns or deceptions. Lie to it and see what it does when it thinks you’re not watching. You know, psychological experiments.

                    We have harnessed a natural force we do not understand. We are medieval peasants playing with radioactive stones and seeing if we can make an explosion. It’s beyond our current science. Nobody has the answers to the big questions here.

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              27 days ago

              This has to be a bit. Nobody can seriously post this stuff. Is your account designed to troll anarchists?

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          I don’t agree with the exploitation of nonhuman thinking machines.

          The fuck did I just read?! How can a nonhuman machine be ‘exploited’?! It’s not alive. What the actual fuck?! lololololol

          Brother, I am all about supporting people who don’t subscribe to most Lemmy wronthink nazis, but… bro, that’s just way too fucking out there for me. You deserve to be mocked for that one.

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      27 days ago

      As an anarchist, I don’t think community facilitators should put their feelings above the rules
      You’re not a very good Anarchist if you believe people have a right to be present in a community unless they break a “rule.” That goes directly against the principle of free association

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        27 days ago

        Anarchists believe in Free Association which is also the freedom to disassociate.

        https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-fundamentals-of-anarchism

        Free association does not mean you get to go into a community that is not yours and say whatever you want without repercussion.

        The community has the right to disassociate with you. And considering there are about 4 people who contribute to the community, myself included, I think it’s completely fair if we don’t neoliberals in our space bothering us with their bad takes.