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This is a thread specifically for the war, not a general megathread (use the pinned /c/genzedong thread for that).
Please keep related news in this thread rather than making separate posts. Remember to include sources and avoid spreading rumours.
Trump really out there saying a whole civilization will die today like it’s a normal thing
It’s shit like that what makes me hate when people try to humanize the oligarchy. “Anyone with that much wealth would act that way.”
Nah fam, I just wouldn’t be able to be that rich.
The reason people have a hard time accepting that the US oligarchy is truly so evil, is because they are incapable of understanding that yes, those people that have been placed in those positions, are truly THAT evil, and that’s WHY they are there.
Like, this circles back to the concept of class. Their relation to the means of production fundamentally discounts accountability. Their consequences of their actions do not directly affect them, and so they can adopt these positions and many others.
It’s not good or evil. People who are part of the bourgeois proper are disconnected from society as a whole.
You have to be “evil” to be/maintain being rich period. At best you are mooch failson/faildaughter or sugar babe whose just tangentially complicit.
The pure terror that will be displayed if you told someone from a “comfortable family” about the “moral” superiority of the mooch layabout over the hardworking selfmade ceo just proves the fundamental incompatibility of class created principles.
That’s not what the humanizing argument is. It’s that 1) human beings are in fact capable of being that fucked up, which leads to 2) we can do something about it in how we design systems going forward, i.e. it’s not an inevitability that the most monstrous of human beings exist in the first place.
If we instead insist 1) the worst of us aren’t human, that leads 2) there are literal monsters among us whose origin is beyond our comprehension and control, and all we can do is try to catch them before they do damage and kill them before they gain any power.
In practice, the first mindset is typically associated with liberation forces and what they practice and believe. The second mindset is typically associated with class and caste, racism and things like that. Note that this does not mean the liberation forces are pacifist in the face of already existing monstrous human beings, nor does this mean they feel a need to mourn the death of a violent oppressor. It just means that they do not treat the existence of the worst people as an inevitable part of life.
So, it’s not that “anyone with that much wealth would act that way.” It’s that a system that produces an oligarchy also produces and elevates sociopathic behavior. It’s not a flip of a switch that means everyone over a certain amount of wealth instantly starts acting like the top worst kind of human being. It’s more of a gradual process and we’re not going to tend to hear as much about the ones with wealth whose character is a “lesser evil”, whose ties to industry are exploitative but whose personal MO remains somewhat conscientious. After all, rare as they may be, class traitors do exist. Generalities about what a system produces do not prevent exceptions to the rule.
I mean, we definitelly should treat them as humans, even if only because not doing so is underestimating the enemy.
Though if anything, it’s preciselly because they are humans that we should be ruthless and thorough in dealing with them.