I tried joining Piefed instead of Lemmy… Before even making a single comment I was banned from 3 communities for “Lemmy account with same username has been seen to start arguments on the Lemmy equivalent to this community”
Late here but I just checked your piefed account. This particular ban you’re referring to was on lemmy.world based communities, so it had nothing whatsoever to do with Piefed as software, or any Piefed instance admin.
If this is your piefed account, and I assume it is, I am literally looking at the communities you were banned from. They are all Lemmy.world based communities. Why would a Piefed instance ban you from Lemmy.world communities? How is it you imagine this even works?
This person has repeatedly defended all the dumb things PieFed does, to the point people have wondered if they’re an alt of the dev. You can ignore them.
I am not an alt of the dev. I’m just piefed.social staff.
And again, this has nothing to do with Piefed. That’s all I’m saying. The user got banned from some communities by a lemmy.world mod. The lemmy.world mod banned both their lemmy and piefed accounts. They are just wrong when they are blaming some systems in Piefed. Why would Piefed randomly ban a piefed account from 5 lemmy.world based communities? How could it even do that?
Yes, you don’t have to interact in a community to be banned from it. Unfortunately, and I am not judging here because I don’t know you - but the moderator of those communities pre-emptively banned you. It had nothing to do with Piefed. They also banned your Lemmy account.
That night be there antibot automation. You can appeal if it wasn’t you. It’s their current attempt to try to combat some AI bots that have been around on Lemmy.
Their design is making it easier to see what the mods/admins think is wrongthink then remove from there. Or if you don’t interact how they want. Then there’s the poorly written code.
Late here, but in this particular case someone using Lemmy spotted a new Piefed account with a username they don’t trust and banned them. It had nothing to do with Piefed admin tools or Piefed itself. The communities the user was banned from are based on Lemmy.world.
Since Lemmy existed before Piefed, pretty much all the bot accounts were here. So their current system uses a database of flagged Lemmy accounts and if the name matches someone else who joins, then it automatically gets flagged too. I think they also check IP addresses at the moment, though I don’t know if they gave up on that or are still experimenting with it.
Oh, for clarification - they’re not automating assessment of user interaction, rather of users who join, and afterwards checking that username to a database of flagged users on Lemmy. It’s to speed up the sign on process a bit more.
Since it’s possible someone else might just happen to pick the same username as that in the database, then it’s possible to appeal and mention you’re not that person on Lemmy.
Yeah, I was so excited about piefed when it first came out. But the thoughtcriming and social rating based on people disgreeing with you, took the shine off pretty quick.
The substance of you exaggerating a moderation feature to discredit PF?
Oh no it has a little badge next to usernames that only admins and mods can see that shows a user might be problematic due to the majority of their posts being downvoted. Literal 1984.
Why is it when people bring up how piefed is bringing the worst of reddit, or other terrible practices supporters only respond with it’s a little icon?
Yep! I someone even mentioned that on the main piefed.social site, I was banned on there before I could even sign up and they had me on some “list.” LMAO
Yeah that’s dirty.
You could probably appeal those bans, but just autobanning everyone that reminds you of something bad isn’t a very good way to build community.
Those 3 communities are probably just one guy with a precrime banbot, btw
I tried joining Piefed instead of Lemmy… Before even making a single comment I was banned from 3 communities for “Lemmy account with same username has been seen to start arguments on the Lemmy equivalent to this community”
Fucking thoughtcriming me
Late here but I just checked your piefed account. This particular ban you’re referring to was on lemmy.world based communities, so it had nothing whatsoever to do with Piefed as software, or any Piefed instance admin.
No, the exact wording said “Lemmy account with this username”
It was Piefed
https://lemmy.world/modlog?userId=18683587
If this is your piefed account, and I assume it is, I am literally looking at the communities you were banned from. They are all Lemmy.world based communities. Why would a Piefed instance ban you from Lemmy.world communities? How is it you imagine this even works?
Yes, the community mod clearly recognised you and banned you. I know who it is.
Are you claiming piefed.blahaj banned you exclusively from 5 lemmy.world based communities?
No, just that the community did before I said a word
And I’ve never interacted with those communities in my life on here or on Piefed, fucking creepy as hell to preban someone
This person has repeatedly defended all the dumb things PieFed does, to the point people have wondered if they’re an alt of the dev. You can ignore them.
I am not an alt of the dev. I’m just piefed.social staff.
And again, this has nothing to do with Piefed. That’s all I’m saying. The user got banned from some communities by a lemmy.world mod. The lemmy.world mod banned both their lemmy and piefed accounts. They are just wrong when they are blaming some systems in Piefed. Why would Piefed randomly ban a piefed account from 5 lemmy.world based communities? How could it even do that?
Yes, you don’t have to interact in a community to be banned from it. Unfortunately, and I am not judging here because I don’t know you - but the moderator of those communities pre-emptively banned you. It had nothing to do with Piefed. They also banned your Lemmy account.
Piefed communities are creepy. It’s a platform based on the concept of those dead duplicate communities trying to boycott the Lemmy devs.
The piefed communities that come across my feed are so curated and empty it’s always just a mod fighting with every other comment.
The bans the user above is referring to took place on lemmy communities. Piefed as software had nothing to do with it.
!television@piefed.social and !movies@piefed.social are the most active communities on those topics
That night be there antibot automation. You can appeal if it wasn’t you. It’s their current attempt to try to combat some AI bots that have been around on Lemmy.
No, lemmy-based communities banned that user. It had nothing to do with Piefed or even bot detection.
They’re automating assessments of user interactions on Lemmy as an anti-bot measure?
Their design is making it easier to see what the mods/admins think is wrongthink then remove from there. Or if you don’t interact how they want. Then there’s the poorly written code.
Late here, but in this particular case someone using Lemmy spotted a new Piefed account with a username they don’t trust and banned them. It had nothing to do with Piefed admin tools or Piefed itself. The communities the user was banned from are based on Lemmy.world.
Kinda.
Since Lemmy existed before Piefed, pretty much all the bot accounts were here. So their current system uses a database of flagged Lemmy accounts and if the name matches someone else who joins, then it automatically gets flagged too. I think they also check IP addresses at the moment, though I don’t know if they gave up on that or are still experimenting with it.
The automated part was the bigger issue, but it sounds like there’s probably not much assessment to have automated then.
Oh, for clarification - they’re not automating assessment of user interaction, rather of users who join, and afterwards checking that username to a database of flagged users on Lemmy. It’s to speed up the sign on process a bit more.
Since it’s possible someone else might just happen to pick the same username as that in the database, then it’s possible to appeal and mention you’re not that person on Lemmy.
But they are? That’s part of their mod tools to show those they want to allow.
That just sound like a terrible idea and as they said for the user.
Yeah, I was so excited about piefed when it first came out. But the thoughtcriming and social rating based on people disgreeing with you, took the shine off pretty quick.
Happens on lemmy as well.
Careful their PR team will come here to say why you are wrong on what the code does!
Oh look it’s the tankies coming out to talk shit about PieFed because people are abandoning their shitty transphobe software.
Just a few more donations bro and the devs will release a new feature in a few years! They might even think about allowing a proper blocklist.
Love the only response from you is insults, and ignoring the substance.
Although didn’t have you pegged as on the piefed pr department
The substance of you exaggerating a moderation feature to discredit PF?
Oh no it has a little badge next to usernames that only admins and mods can see that shows a user might be problematic due to the majority of their posts being downvoted. Literal 1984.
Yes reading the code, and reasoning from the creator is definitely exaggerating.
So you are cool with that type of rules? Interesting
What type of rules? It’s literally an icon next to a username. I mod on PieFed, I see it occasionally it’s not a big deal.
Why is it when people bring up how piefed is bringing the worst of reddit, or other terrible practices supporters only respond with it’s a little icon?
Yes with an iron fist hilariously
You know as soon as you got on PieFed, the dev would hard code censoring you because you don’t support liberalism.
Yep! I someone even mentioned that on the main piefed.social site, I was banned on there before I could even sign up and they had me on some “list.” LMAO
Makes sense for piefed to censor you, you don’t support liberal capitalism.
Yeah that’s dirty.
You could probably appeal those bans, but just autobanning everyone that reminds you of something bad isn’t a very good way to build community.
Those 3 communities are probably just one guy with a precrime banbot, btw