President Donald Trump has signed a presidential memorandum deploying 2,000 National Guardsmen to disperse protests over immigration activity in the Los Angeles area, the White House said in a statement Saturday night.
Having seen a couple of vids from folks on the ground it seemed akin to a proper French riot. Folks lobbing bricks, makeshift barricades, vehicles burning etc.
Yeah folks may feel justified an upset but it isn’t exactly surprising when authorities crack down to restore order in such a situation.
Sure they can, that’s called a revolution - in that case those who caused the disorder get called “heroes” and “freedom fighters”.
If they get smushed by the current authorities coming back in force, then they get written into the history books as “criminals”, “rebels” or “insurrectionists”.
People don’t just instantly forget the moment after an event ends, especially now.
The point I was making, is that bringing in cops and the national guard to beat protesters does not restore order to a crisis caused by ICE kidnapping people. It is an escalation that will very likely be matched if CA hasn’t totally forgotten their past. Which they haven’t.
Read up on the '92 LA riots. Do you think US authorities are willing to use more, or less force today than then? Do you think LA civilians today have a larger, or lesser capacity for violence?
Thankfully I don’t think US authorities are anywhere close to PRC or Russia levels of force usage against civilians, but I would bet on the badges coming out on top if it came to a chicken race. That’s not to say it wouldn’t get ugly.
What you’re not understanding is that quashing a protest with force doesn’t make the anger just go away.
Thankfully I don’t think US authorities are anywhere close to PRC or Russia levels of force
The US is only trying to end Habeas Corpus, cracking down on free speech, personal and social freedoms, deploying military units in the streets, planting secret police in protests, and is currently kidnapping, disappearing, and sending people to foreign labor camps without trial while wearing masks and not giving any identifiable information… All while supporting and funding an ongoing internationally-recognized genocide.
What you’re not understanding is that quashing a protest with force doesn’t make the anger just go away.
Please don’t try to guess what I think, understand or don’t understand, because you are arguing against a straw man of your own making.
Given that your account is 4 days old I’m going to leave it there. I have no interest in engaging someone who may be a bad-faith troll. We can have another talk if you’re still around in a month or so.
LMAO. If you ignore the point I’m making in 3 consecutive comments, I’m going to assume you don’t understand. You should take your own advice, you literally told me to go read about the riots!
How do you mean? Most authoritarian regimes are maintained with fear and violence. Even in democratic states that don’t primarily rule through fear the government generally has a monopoly on using violence to enforce the law.
I mean that as we’ve seen cops are easy to start using pellets and gas, and when people respond throwing rocks, suddenly it’s a ‘violent insurrection’; that’s why I said it’s important to see who started it.
Having seen a couple of vids from folks on the ground it seemed akin to a proper French riot. Folks lobbing bricks, makeshift barricades, vehicles burning etc.
Yeah folks may feel justified an upset but it isn’t exactly surprising when authorities crack down to restore order in such a situation.
Restore order? Those who caused disorder cannot “restore order” by causing more disorder.
Sure they can, that’s called a revolution - in that case those who caused the disorder get called “heroes” and “freedom fighters”.
If they get smushed by the current authorities coming back in force, then they get written into the history books as “criminals”, “rebels” or “insurrectionists”.
Winner writes history and all that.
People don’t just instantly forget the moment after an event ends, especially now.
The point I was making, is that bringing in cops and the national guard to beat protesters does not restore order to a crisis caused by ICE kidnapping people. It is an escalation that will very likely be matched if CA hasn’t totally forgotten their past. Which they haven’t.
Read up on the '92 LA riots. Do you think US authorities are willing to use more, or less force today than then? Do you think LA civilians today have a larger, or lesser capacity for violence?
Thankfully I don’t think US authorities are anywhere close to PRC or Russia levels of force usage against civilians, but I would bet on the badges coming out on top if it came to a chicken race. That’s not to say it wouldn’t get ugly.
What you’re not understanding is that quashing a protest with force doesn’t make the anger just go away.
The US is only trying to end Habeas Corpus, cracking down on free speech, personal and social freedoms, deploying military units in the streets, planting secret police in protests, and is currently kidnapping, disappearing, and sending people to foreign labor camps without trial while wearing masks and not giving any identifiable information… All while supporting and funding an ongoing internationally-recognized genocide.
Maybe you should be doing the reading…
Please don’t try to guess what I think, understand or don’t understand, because you are arguing against a straw man of your own making.
Given that your account is 4 days old I’m going to leave it there. I have no interest in engaging someone who may be a bad-faith troll. We can have another talk if you’re still around in a month or so.
LMAO. If you ignore the point I’m making in 3 consecutive comments, I’m going to assume you don’t understand. You should take your own advice, you literally told me to go read about the riots!
And surely you’ve heard about about lemm.ee and slrpnk.net? No?
It all depends on who started being violent first…
How do you mean? Most authoritarian regimes are maintained with fear and violence. Even in democratic states that don’t primarily rule through fear the government generally has a monopoly on using violence to enforce the law.
I mean that as we’ve seen cops are easy to start using pellets and gas, and when people respond throwing rocks, suddenly it’s a ‘violent insurrection’; that’s why I said it’s important to see who started it.