• zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev
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        3 months ago

        Yeah, I want evidence that’s weight loss is as simple as repeating that phrase that without understanding it. I don’t think people quoting it a) know what it means b) understand biology, psychology, hormones, disease. I’m tired of idiots going unchallenged on their dumb ideas.

        • lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          If you eat less you will weigh less. That is always true because of the laws of the universe.

          I don’t make the rules

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            3 months ago

            Right, you’re almost there. How do we get people to reliably eat less?

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              I don’t need people to eat less, I just need folks to understand that eating less is the answer.

              The how is irrelevant to me

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                3 months ago

                Everyone knows eating less is the answer. We have for decades. And yet, the world is obese. You’re not revealing anything new or revolutionary. Society has accepted this as truth long ago, and now we are tackling a different problem - how to keep as many people as possible realistically able to lose weight and reduce the risk of heart disease. Having the willpower to eat less isn’t the answer for 30+% of the population.

                Sticking your head in the sand and saying “I don’t care how you do it, just eat less” is at best tone deaf and pointless and at worst actively harmful. The problem we’re facing now isn’t that we don’t know how a human can lose weight. It’s how individuals in our current society with external factors and challenges can reliably lose weight, applied at scale.

                • lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world
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                  I’m not trying to reveal anything, I’m just stating facts and people’s emotions are flaring up for reasons I will never know. This whole back and forth is just so painfully weird.

                  Why do you think everyone in here is so emotional? Why are laws of thermodynamics so emotionally hot for all the people in this thread?

                  I am not talking about obesity, nor was I ever, for some strange reason that’s where you keep steering. Why do you want to talk about fat people, when I’m discussing energy conservation?

                  • Alk@sh.itjust.works
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                    3 months ago

                    This whole conversation is about obesity. The article is about losing weight with ozempic, which is to treat obesity. My top comment was about obesity. Everyone else is talking about obesity. The reason you’re getting pushback from everyone is because you’re purposely ignoring the topic at hand and arguing pedantics about energy conservation when nobody else is talking about that, or cares about that. You’re preaching to the choir. Everyone knows you can lose weight by eating fewer calories than you burn. It’s common sense. But that’s not what the whole discussion is about.

                    I’m also not sure what you’re referring to about getting emotional, except for maybe that one person who told someone to STFU.

                    We agree that yes, the laws of thermodynamics exist and you are correct. Now how about you come and discuss what everyone else is discussing and contribute something to the thread? If you don’t feel like discussing obesity and real-world weight loss tactics, that’s perfectly fine. I’m sure there are plenty of other posts and threads talking about thermodynamics that you can join.