• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    22 hours ago

    ICEA wasn’t previously “let loose,” the deportation process existed (and happened way too often), but people received due process.

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        16 hours ago

        Lmfao who’s ass did you pull that from?

        I’m not an Obama Stan but the immigration policy was pretty tame during his administration.

        There was a shift from voluntary removals (aka tossing them back over the border) to formal proceedings and a change to prioritize recent arrivals, those caught at the border and felons. By 2013, 87% of removals were in this top priority category.

        So contrary to whatever edgy narrative you’re imagining in your head, immigration enforcement was nothing like this before.

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          12 hours ago

          who’s ass did you pull that from

          The ACLU, I know their kind of reporting isnt typical brunch discussion so I see how you could have missed it. And they are referencing the same website you try and claim was uneventful

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            11 hours ago

            Neat, appreciate the source. None of that refutes anything in my source and in fact the two paint the same picture. Obama’s policy decision to formalize removals put more cases in the court docket. This (and other factors) put a massive backlog on reviews and they cut corners for the 80% of ostensibly open/shut cases.

            Could Obama have done way better? Absolutely. But compared to the previous two administrations keeping things off book, it was still a step in the right direction to bring those to light in the formal process.

            You keep saying “brunch” which I assume is to imply that everyone who’s mad now was blissfully unaware of any problems 10 years ago. Not only is that not true but it’s massively disingenuous.

            DACA was a bandaid, but even as a gesture it showed an entirely different atmosphere around immigration and reform. Somehow Obama using his executive power to mitigate a problem is the same as Trump telling DACA kids to self deport while ethnically cleansing entire cities?

            Gtfo you clown