Lol no. USSR by definition was not communist, only by it’s name. Look up what communism actually is. It has no central government for starters. This is why it’s hard for me to even refer to USSR as communists, they were a socialist state.
The S in USSR is “Socialist”. You could say that Communism is the end goal (stateless, classless), and socialism is the transitional stage, but USSR never reached communism, they only had a party that called themselves communist party of socialist state
Correct, which is why I am mocking the liberal who thinks socialism is European style social democracy and AES are evil oppressive places because “communist application of oppressive law”
Communism is flawed because it is exploited easily by bad actors. Grow up and accept that.
Edit: socialism and socialist policies are economic, which means they can be applied to any style of government. It’s communism that’s flawed, not socialism.
Socialism is about the power dynamic, rich people giving to charity isn’t socialism, nor is capital setting up a minimal welfare state to prevent a revolution, which capital then recinds as the threat is removed.
You are not a socialist, you want to maintain the institution of capitaliam, that you makes definitionly a liberal, eg opposed to socialism.
Don’t tag me with American pidgeonholes
This isn’t some weird American usage of liberal, this is the way its been used for 200 years or so.
Providing services to the citizens of the respective nation, whether that is healthcare, housing, education, pensions, social security payments. No more no less
You are not a socialist
Not in the pigeonholed sense you mean, no. I support strong social policy but also would like the right to vote for the leaders I want.
you want to maintain the institution of capitalism
Here’s you clowns bringing out the isms again. You have no idea what I want because you probably don’t truly know what you want yourself. I support the right if people to operate a business but that does not mean I support unfettered capitalism.
this isn’t…
It’s an American pigeonhole and dint try to make out it’s anything else. Which part of fuck off with your isms don’t you understand, Che?
Communism is when you’re oppressive for no reason at all.
Lol no. USSR by definition was not communist, only by it’s name. Look up what communism actually is. It has no central government for starters. This is why it’s hard for me to even refer to USSR as communists, they were a socialist state.
The S in USSR is “Socialist”. You could say that Communism is the end goal (stateless, classless), and socialism is the transitional stage, but USSR never reached communism, they only had a party that called themselves communist party of socialist state
Correct, which is why I am mocking the liberal who thinks socialism is European style social democracy and AES are evil oppressive places because “communist application of oppressive law”
Don’t tag me with American pidgeonholes champion
Communism is flawed because it is exploited easily by bad actors. Grow up and accept that.
Edit: socialism and socialist policies are economic, which means they can be applied to any style of government. It’s communism that’s flawed, not socialism.
Socialism is about the power dynamic, rich people giving to charity isn’t socialism, nor is capital setting up a minimal welfare state to prevent a revolution, which capital then recinds as the threat is removed.
You are not a socialist, you want to maintain the institution of capitaliam, that you makes definitionly a liberal, eg opposed to socialism.
This isn’t some weird American usage of liberal, this is the way its been used for 200 years or so.
Providing services to the citizens of the respective nation, whether that is healthcare, housing, education, pensions, social security payments. No more no less
Not in the pigeonholed sense you mean, no. I support strong social policy but also would like the right to vote for the leaders I want.
Here’s you clowns bringing out the isms again. You have no idea what I want because you probably don’t truly know what you want yourself. I support the right if people to operate a business but that does not mean I support unfettered capitalism.
It’s an American pigeonhole and dint try to make out it’s anything else. Which part of fuck off with your isms don’t you understand, Che?