Independent Persian has received messages from protestors within Iran via Starlink satellite that describe a ‘war-like situation’. Amirhossein Miresmaeili reports
I’d say let Iranian people decide if they want to go for it or not, instead of supporting a brutal theocracy because you feel like it’s for the “greater good”. If Iranians want to go for it, I support it.
Again, we’re not talking about supporting the greater good here. We’re talking about Iranian people being subjugated by the the US and Israel. You can’t just say “well let’s see what the people choose” when Mossad is literally on the streets killing people. You’re not understanding the situation.
The government is fighting against foreign intervention and an attempt at rerunning the color revolution playbook of the CIA and NED. The government will fight back. You don’t get to ask the government to lie down and die in the face of foreign adversaries, it has a responsibility to stop that from happening.
The Iranian people are very clear that they do not want the US or Israel to intervene. They came out and protestrd Israel in huge numbers during the attacks against Iran.
Additionally, the news media is walking back their reports of mass killings. Last week it was 12,000. This week it’s 1,200 with 5,000 being in investigated. Coroners reports are coming back with hundreds of victims dying of stabbing wounds, which indicates they weren’t murdered by state police forces firing into crowds but rather were murdered by the crowds themselves.
You’re dismissing the people’s actual will and their own measure of the situation because of your own beliefs. And you’re making the protesters out to be some foreign actors or foreign invasion. You’re taking agency away from them and presenting them as some sort of puppets.
Mossad is literally on the streets killing people. You’re not understanding the situation.
The government is fighting against foreign intervention and an attempt at rerunning the color revolution playbook of the CIA and NED.
Quite handy for the government to dismiss the protests like that. Every single time there’s an attempted popular uprising it’s just foreign actors and whatnot, not actual popular will.
This has nothing to do with the government dismissing the protests. Mossad is literally stating they are on the ground. Remember that they were also on the ground with a persistent presence during the attempted decapitation attacks last year. It’s not like the Iranian government is just making shit up about active Israeli attacks.
And it’s not like their making shit up about US CIA interference either. The major “human rights organizations” that have been in the news talking about the situation are almost all funded by the NED, a known CIA carve out that has openly taken credit for color revolutions in other countries.
There things are well documented, have been well documented for decades, and we have evidence for them from as little as 6 months ago.
You can’t just keep acting like there’s no such thing as history and no such thing as context. This is not an offseason sporting match between two teams in a closed stadium. Iran is under active siege, in a “frozen” active conflict with Israel, and has been relentlessly attacked for years on end. And when color revolution is a weapon in the arsenal of empire, you’re being willfully blind and signing up millions of Iranians for total subjugation by occupying forces.
Nobody is denying that Israel and US are involved. Like said, there’s always going to be foreign involvement. What you are claiming is that the protesters are being controlled by them. And that’s the line the government is also using while trying to suppress the protests, making the protesters out to be some puppets.
I never claimed the protesters are being controlled by them. Go ahead and read everything I have written in the topic. That’s not my claim, it’s never been my claim, and I am not arguing from that position. I do not believe the protesters are being controlled by them.
And that’s the line the government is also using while trying to suppress the protests, making the protesters out to be some puppets.
The government is speaking in Farsi, not in English. The government is saying that Israeli forces are on the ground making the protests worse. Turning them violent. Killing police officers and burning buildings. They are not saying that all of the protestors are being controlled by foreign agents.
You are absorbing the propaganda of the regime change ghouls.
If you don’t think they are puppets and doing the bidding of someone else, do you support the protesters who want to overthrow the government (assuming that there’s enough popular will for that to happen), do you dismiss them because Israel and USA have an interested in seeing the government fall too or do you dismiss them on the grounds that you don’t think they should do it?
The government is speaking in Farsi, not in English.
I acknowledge that the protestors want their government to meet their needs. I do not support overthrowing the government at this time because regardless of the people’s will, the government will be replaced with a US puppet and that will not allow the Iranian’s will to be expressed.
I do not support overthrowing the government at this time because regardless of the people’s will, the government will be replaced with a US puppet and that will not allow the Iranian’s will to be expressed.
So you are against the people’s will because you think you know better than the people protesting. And you feel they should suffer under a government they don’t want because of that. That’s quite something all right.
I’d say let Iranian people decide if they want to go for it or not, instead of supporting a brutal theocracy because you feel like it’s for the “greater good”. If Iranians want to go for it, I support it.
Again, we’re not talking about supporting the greater good here. We’re talking about Iranian people being subjugated by the the US and Israel. You can’t just say “well let’s see what the people choose” when Mossad is literally on the streets killing people. You’re not understanding the situation.
The government is fighting against foreign intervention and an attempt at rerunning the color revolution playbook of the CIA and NED. The government will fight back. You don’t get to ask the government to lie down and die in the face of foreign adversaries, it has a responsibility to stop that from happening.
The Iranian people are very clear that they do not want the US or Israel to intervene. They came out and protestrd Israel in huge numbers during the attacks against Iran.
Additionally, the news media is walking back their reports of mass killings. Last week it was 12,000. This week it’s 1,200 with 5,000 being in investigated. Coroners reports are coming back with hundreds of victims dying of stabbing wounds, which indicates they weren’t murdered by state police forces firing into crowds but rather were murdered by the crowds themselves.
You’re dismissing the people’s actual will and their own measure of the situation because of your own beliefs. And you’re making the protesters out to be some foreign actors or foreign invasion. You’re taking agency away from them and presenting them as some sort of puppets.
Quite handy for the government to dismiss the protests like that. Every single time there’s an attempted popular uprising it’s just foreign actors and whatnot, not actual popular will.
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-881733
This has nothing to do with the government dismissing the protests. Mossad is literally stating they are on the ground. Remember that they were also on the ground with a persistent presence during the attempted decapitation attacks last year. It’s not like the Iranian government is just making shit up about active Israeli attacks.
And it’s not like their making shit up about US CIA interference either. The major “human rights organizations” that have been in the news talking about the situation are almost all funded by the NED, a known CIA carve out that has openly taken credit for color revolutions in other countries.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/revealed-the-cia-backed-think-tanks-fueling-the-iran-protests/290638/
There things are well documented, have been well documented for decades, and we have evidence for them from as little as 6 months ago.
You can’t just keep acting like there’s no such thing as history and no such thing as context. This is not an offseason sporting match between two teams in a closed stadium. Iran is under active siege, in a “frozen” active conflict with Israel, and has been relentlessly attacked for years on end. And when color revolution is a weapon in the arsenal of empire, you’re being willfully blind and signing up millions of Iranians for total subjugation by occupying forces.
Nobody is denying that Israel and US are involved. Like said, there’s always going to be foreign involvement. What you are claiming is that the protesters are being controlled by them. And that’s the line the government is also using while trying to suppress the protests, making the protesters out to be some puppets.
I never claimed the protesters are being controlled by them. Go ahead and read everything I have written in the topic. That’s not my claim, it’s never been my claim, and I am not arguing from that position. I do not believe the protesters are being controlled by them.
The government is speaking in Farsi, not in English. The government is saying that Israeli forces are on the ground making the protests worse. Turning them violent. Killing police officers and burning buildings. They are not saying that all of the protestors are being controlled by foreign agents.
You are absorbing the propaganda of the regime change ghouls.
If you don’t think they are puppets and doing the bidding of someone else, do you support the protesters who want to overthrow the government (assuming that there’s enough popular will for that to happen), do you dismiss them because Israel and USA have an interested in seeing the government fall too or do you dismiss them on the grounds that you don’t think they should do it?
Wa waah.
I acknowledge that the protestors want their government to meet their needs. I do not support overthrowing the government at this time because regardless of the people’s will, the government will be replaced with a US puppet and that will not allow the Iranian’s will to be expressed.
So you are against the people’s will because you think you know better than the people protesting. And you feel they should suffer under a government they don’t want because of that. That’s quite something all right.