Independent Persian has received messages from protestors within Iran via Starlink satellite that describe a ‘war-like situation’. Amirhossein Miresmaeili reports
So yeah, that tweet is quite the smoking gun about Mossad being now involved with the protest (which isn’t surprising, sabotage is part of any external intelligence toolset).
Now to say that everything is because of them/the CIA, and not because of the systemic corruption of the Iranian regime, I find it quite far fetched, and quite dishonest toward the Iranian manifestants who do have legitimate matters to protest about (and aren’t foreign agents).
I’d tell Mossad to go fuck themselves, and let the Iranian people do their revolution however they see fit, but on the other hand, there is so much difference in the regime weaponry compared to the manifestants ones, I’d consider Mossad involvement, if it make the protest more likely to succeed, a necessary evil.
You think the fact that the CIA has conducted multiple color revolutions in the area, and in fact conducted a full regime change in Iran in living memory doesn’t lend credibility to the claim? How about the fact that Israel literally launched a war against Iran not 12 months ago, killing civilians, politicians, scientists, etc?
At this point, it strains credulity that any of y’all think that it’s NOT being organized by the US.
Just read about NED, color revolutions, the foreign policy of sanctions - particularly Kissinger’s thoughts. It’s not like history started on Dec 11th.
I’m not saying it is not credible, just that if a regime change is really what the Iranian people wish, having the support of an evil country doesn’t change their legitimate aspirations.
Unfortunately this is impossible to know with the current regime, so the only solution is to topple it and hope for the best. But ultimately the Iranian people have to be the ones to choose, not the mollahs, not the US, not Israel.
No. You’re upside down. It’s not that the Iranian people have the support of an evil regime. It’s that if the Iranian people succeed in toppling their government, Israel will dominate the Iranian people and the Iranian people will not be able to express their will. And when the Israelis and USians put their puppets in place, if the Iranians protest, the they’ll be brutally suppressed and the death toll will be massive.
The only solution is to topple the aggressors the first. Then and only then is mass Iranian self determination able to be secured.
Well, they are already getting brutally suppressed, what difference would it make? There are no chance of regime change right now, so batter take a chance for improvement than wait like a good sacrificial lamb for better days that will never happen as long as the mollah are in power.
Well, they are already getting brutally suppressed, what difference would it make?
Have you seen Gaza? Libya? Somalia? Syria? Iraq? Afghanistan? That’s the difference.
There are no chance of regime change right now, so batter take a chance for improvement than wait like a good sacrificial lamb for better days that will never happen as long as the mollah are in power.
Incorrect attribution of cause. The problems in Iran are caused first and foremost by the siege - brutal sanctions from the US and Europe have caused 10x more deaths than violence from the government. When the seige is broken, then Iranians will have the safety they need to actually prosecute the revolution they need for self-determination.
When the seige is broken, then Iranians will have the safety they need to actually prosecute the revolution they need for self-determination.
Because you think that the Mollahs will stop using tanks and machine guns on protesters because the sanctions would be lifted? No, they will use that to reinforce themselves with more weapons, new technologies, and be an even bigger threat for the whole region.
Link?
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-881733
Thank you for providing a reliable source.
So yeah, that tweet is quite the smoking gun about Mossad being now involved with the protest (which isn’t surprising, sabotage is part of any external intelligence toolset).
Now to say that everything is because of them/the CIA, and not because of the systemic corruption of the Iranian regime, I find it quite far fetched, and quite dishonest toward the Iranian manifestants who do have legitimate matters to protest about (and aren’t foreign agents).
I’d tell Mossad to go fuck themselves, and let the Iranian people do their revolution however they see fit, but on the other hand, there is so much difference in the regime weaponry compared to the manifestants ones, I’d consider Mossad involvement, if it make the protest more likely to succeed, a necessary evil.
You think the fact that the CIA has conducted multiple color revolutions in the area, and in fact conducted a full regime change in Iran in living memory doesn’t lend credibility to the claim? How about the fact that Israel literally launched a war against Iran not 12 months ago, killing civilians, politicians, scientists, etc?
At this point, it strains credulity that any of y’all think that it’s NOT being organized by the US.
Just read about NED, color revolutions, the foreign policy of sanctions - particularly Kissinger’s thoughts. It’s not like history started on Dec 11th.
I’m not saying it is not credible, just that if a regime change is really what the Iranian people wish, having the support of an evil country doesn’t change their legitimate aspirations.
Unfortunately this is impossible to know with the current regime, so the only solution is to topple it and hope for the best. But ultimately the Iranian people have to be the ones to choose, not the mollahs, not the US, not Israel.
No. You’re upside down. It’s not that the Iranian people have the support of an evil regime. It’s that if the Iranian people succeed in toppling their government, Israel will dominate the Iranian people and the Iranian people will not be able to express their will. And when the Israelis and USians put their puppets in place, if the Iranians protest, the they’ll be brutally suppressed and the death toll will be massive.
The only solution is to topple the aggressors the first. Then and only then is mass Iranian self determination able to be secured.
Well, they are already getting brutally suppressed, what difference would it make? There are no chance of regime change right now, so batter take a chance for improvement than wait like a good sacrificial lamb for better days that will never happen as long as the mollah are in power.
Have you seen Gaza? Libya? Somalia? Syria? Iraq? Afghanistan? That’s the difference.
Incorrect attribution of cause. The problems in Iran are caused first and foremost by the siege - brutal sanctions from the US and Europe have caused 10x more deaths than violence from the government. When the seige is broken, then Iranians will have the safety they need to actually prosecute the revolution they need for self-determination.
Because you think that the Mollahs will stop using tanks and machine guns on protesters because the sanctions would be lifted? No, they will use that to reinforce themselves with more weapons, new technologies, and be an even bigger threat for the whole region.