I sent the MOD this message:
Hi XXXXXXXX, I just noticed that you banned me 2 hours ago from c/Science for Spam. I am confused. I mostly lurk and haven’t commented or posted anything in several months. I definitely don’t post ads or spam. Can you please let me know what happened?
The only reason that I noticed that I am banned is that I watched that (long-ish) video about Brainrot on the feed and the top comment is asking for a tldw.
It was probably an admin ban. They ban if non-.ml users downvote anything on their instance. And if you ask about it they’ll block you.
Seems like the devs of lemmy who also happen to run .ml could add some code to lemmy that lets instances disallow down votes from outside the instance if they want to. Or set it to not display from within the .ml instance so their precious fee fees aren’t hurt.
Yeah, they are not powerless to prevent downvote brigades, and serial downvoters. There are a number of ways they can throttle downvote frequency, monitor sources of varying accounts, etc.
But that power would go both ways. It would allow other instances to interfere with tankie brigading!
Thank you for that clarification. I’m surprised, but then I suppose there really isn’t much else they can do about vote bots and brigades. A warning would have been nice, but given that Lemmy is starting to show evidence of the kind of bots that are killing reddit (and all social media), I can understand their position.
No, there’s plenty they can do. They’re the developers of Lemmy itself, they could easily implement something that limited the interaction of external users. Some instances already have downvotes disabled entirely. But I guess they get off on this.
There is a serious amount of serial downvoters and upvoters on lemmy to cause drama or direct the flow of conversation. They might let you back in once they realize you’re not a bot or a troll.
Don’t act like they just ban anyone who downvotes anything. You’ve been banned three times for vote spam, and you’re literally notorious for downvoting
Edit:
Sources:
https://lemmy.zip/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=22809396
https://lemvotes.org/user/frongt@lemmy.zip
Lemvotes isn’t definitive. But damn that’s lopsided for sure.
Even so, what does it matter? Where is the indication that a user with a high downvote ratio is doing anything harmful, let alone worthy of a permaban?
Edit: Can someone please ban the people downvoting me? I can’t deal with this.
There’s nothing indicating that specifically. But if you’re downvoting THAT much more, it’s notable. There are people I see that I regularly downvote for solid reasons. Hypocrisy, whataboutism etc. But vote totals don’t get that lopsided without some effort. All that means ultimately it’s the ratio is lopsided.
So let’s ban those who doesn’t downvote enough? /s
It’s a stupid argument IMO, and as with all statistics you can show what you want with it. That doesn’t mean the person didn’t downvote abusively of course, just that you can’t tell from global statistics.
NoooOoOo you can only have your say with updoots!!!1
I agree with this. Far as I’m concerned, even if somebody only engages with posts they hate so all of their interactions are downvotes, why the fuck should they be banned? What does forcing faux positivity gain us? Yes I understand the value in stopping vote manipulation bots, but imo there should need to be more evidence of bot status or nefarious intent than just “downvotes a lot.”
That’s a lot of downvotes!
Oh no, don’t use the platform exactly as designed and intended!
Notorious amongst whom? I don’t spam votes, I evaluate each item on its merits as I see them.
There’s a post about you on the mildly infuriating comm rn
Your apparent 3rd strike for vote spamming suggests otherwise
Please consider curating your feed rather than downvoting content you don’t like
My feed is perfectly well curated. But I also downvote (and report) a lot of spam, like actual chatgpt-generated ad spam.
(I also downvote “deleted by creator” comments, but that’s just to push them down in the comment trees, because they’re just noise. They changed the behavior a while back to leave that instead of actually deleting it when it had no replies, and I wish they’d revert that change.)
Total post upvotes: 19
Total post downvotes: 4656
(x) Doubt
crapGPT
“Vote spamming” is actually the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard on this platform. Oh no, don’t engage in the primary way the platform allows! How horrible!
And you people wonder why lemmy hasn’t and will never actually take off?
Total post upvotes: 19
Looks like lemmy has absolutely nothing of merit for you, why are you even here?
People aren’t under the obligation to upvote posts they like. Personally I don’t upvote or downvote a lot of posts either.
Not upvoting is 1 thing. Having a 500:1 downvote:upvote ratio is quite another.
Eh, I’m not sure it’s indicative of votespamming though. That can just be a product of how they use Lemmy.
I didn’t accuse him of votespamming, only of being a crappy member of the community.
One of the few sensible comments in this shitlib thread