Background
I have been quite fascinated by Europe’s continental suicide in the face of the failure of Project Ukraine and the fracturing of the “transatlantic understanding”.
I think Europe still has time to choose strategic autonomy:
- Rapprochement with Russia to restore their energy competitiveness.
- Rapprochement with China to restore their global trade and industrial competitiveness.
- Seek out global markets to blunt the Trump tariffs.
- Pressure Ukraine to hasten their inevitable capitulation before they loose EVEN MORE LAND AND SOLDIERS.
Of course as we all know, the Western media has the complete opposite narrative, a jumble something like “Russia has lost 10 bajillion soldiers and they don’t actually have military equipment at all and also advancing on the battlefield counts as losing if it wasn’t as fast as we ourselves predicted it would be.”
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- This war started in 2008 at the Bucharest NATO summit, when the US announced its intention to expand NATO into Ukraine and Georgia. EVEN EUROPEAN LEADERS like Merkel and Sarkozy noted AT THE TIME that the Russians would view NATO expansion into these countries as tantamount to a declaration of war. Over the next 14 years the West did a “color revolution”, the Banderites did an ethnic cleansing campaign in the Donbass, and the West sabotaged and undermined THREE DIFFERENT PEACE AGREEMENTS before the Russians’ famous patience finally expired in 2022.
- Ukraine doesn’t need money to win the war, it needs TRAINED INFANTRY and to a lesser extent weapons. MOREOVER, anyone who thinks this money will last Ukraine even a whole year is delusional. The annual BASELINE burn rate of the Ukraine regime is 150B+ annually, and tax receipts are essentially nonexistent.
- They must be REALLY DESPERATE to risk the CREDIBILITY OF THE ENTIRE EUROPEAN FINANCIAL SYSTEM on this foolish gambit. They are breaking the very “Laws of Capital” that the West itself wrote. The Europeans seem determined to beat the Americans in a race to economic decline and collapse.
Tell me again about the “moral case” for stealing sovereign assets to prop up a stunningly corrupt regime in terminal collapse?
Looking forward to the tortured logic justifying my ban.
My Commentary
I know enough to know that they really don’t like contrary narratives about Russia/Ukraine in any of the Euro-comms so I wrote my comments very carefully.
Can you, the esteemed commenters of YPTB, spot the misinformation or rage bait? Perhaps I am just blind to it in my own content. If present, did I “ragebait first” or did the other commenter?
Reminder that “Russia says this, therefore it is misinformation” is not a cogent argument or evidence.
Sure lots of things happened, none of them started a war. When putler invaded Crimea he started the war.
Right and that 3 day military operation is going sooooooo well despite Ukraine being Tiny compared to the russia? The money is there, the manufacturing is there. The Ukraine heros are there.
Does mean putler isn’t a fascist colonizer…
thankfully no one thinks that. Keep excusing putlers and the russias genocidal cleansing ambitions. Ukraine strikes the russian infrastructure, the russians strike schools and hospitals, much like another fascist genocider, bibi and Israel.
Ahh, I see, history actually starts after the Maidan coup but before the bloodless annexation of Crimea. Ever wonder why it was so easy for the Russians to take the peninsula?
The Russians never said 3 days.
Indeed. Imagine if the Russians had conducted a full mobilization and all-out war instead of this SMO.
When your own European leaders came out and said the Russians were outproducing all of the West in artillery shells three-to-one did you just simply not believe them? Did you think it was limited to artillery shells?
When every single person from the US puppetmasters down to the Ukrainian NCOs on the ground has been speaking for years about Ukraine’s crippling infantry shortage, did you simply not believe them either?
You know why don’t we get a few decades away from Europe being a neocolonial power (clock still hasn’t started) and then they can start pointing fingers.
Really is that so? It seems like that is the exact narrative you were reading from mentally as you wrote this comment.
Projection. If the Ukrainians had simply agreed to protect Russian speakers and the Orthodox Church in 2014 they could have kept Donbass AND Crimea. But the Banderites and the West had to have it all so they gambled with the lives of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers and now they are LOSING.
Projection again. The Banderites are the ones who have been continuously bombarding Russian-controlled civilian territory since the 2014 coup
I see now that I am speaking with someone’s who’s perception of reality is so out of step with the real world. Keep spreading that kgb propaganda, keeping apologizing for putler. Have a good life
When faced with a clash of worldviews like this do you ever stop and ask yourself if you are in fact the incorrect one?
All the time, thanks, you should try it from time to time
How do you suppose it was that I went from being a Liberal to an ML?
Propaganda
What media is NOT propaganda in your view?
What does that matter?