1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards

https://lemmy.ml/u/davel

2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?

Community Ban

3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).

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4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).

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(I have not posted there)

Likewise the community has no rules listed, so I’m not sure how I’ve broken rule 4

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Davel is probably going to try to claim me downvoting a post or comment of his that popped up on my feed or something as me breaking the entire instances rule 4 (no spam?) - which is why I need to be banned only from one community I don’t engage in.

Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately, even going so far as to downvote me telling real legitimate antisemites to ‘fuck off’.

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Even CowBee had the decency to admit they were in the wrong and change their ragevote to an upvote.

Davel however seems to especially thinskinned even for the typical .ML’er and would rather double down and engage in poorly disguised retaliation bans for criticisms of a political ideology.

This thought terminating behaviour on display by one of the admins of such a reputable and outstanding instance as Lemmy.ml was not at all warranted and I hereby call on the leadership at lemmy.ML to unban me so that I may continue to not post in their community.

    • Eldritch@piefed.world
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      20 days ago

      It’s one thing when some random unknown person does it with their own personal communities. It’s a bit different when it’s an instance administrator. I think you will at least acknowledge that.

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      18 days ago

      Is… is there a rule anywhere that says thats how the comm operates?

      Or are we just all supposed to assume potentially any comm is run by the invisible and artibrary whims and unstated rulesets of mods?

      They’re not… I don’t think they are upset they cannot participate in a comm they did not participate in. That’s not the point.

      The point is the the princple, or lack thereof.

      If you want to have an instance wide rule that actually codifies, in some way, the ability of admins/powermods to ban anyone, from anywhere, for any reason… then that would be shitty, but at least openly and transparently shitty.

      Then at least Dictatorship of the Daveletariat would at least be, you know, explicitly stated policy?

      … does such a public facing rule or ruleset already exist, and I just missed it?

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        18 days ago

        I was just pointing out that there are multiple communities on the threadiverse that do the same thing, including some hosted on this very instance! A community moderator’s job is to grow a community and if a person isn’t a right fit for the community why would a moderator want to keep them around, especially if they are disruptive to the community

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          17 days ago

          Ok, so they deserve being banned for … breaking an undefined rule.

          That’s your position?

          EDIT: the whole problem here is this person got banned from a comm they’d never been to… for spamming.

          That doesn’t make sense.

          You saying them being banned from a comm they’d never been to… for disrupting that comm… also does not make any sense.

          The other element of this problem is powermods (by which I mean people who mod multiple comms) and admins banning people from one place for infractions committed in another, and then potentially daisy chaining through private convos between mods… when said banned person isn’t really clearly violating stated rules that have that stated penalty outcome.

          That is exactly the kind of hivemind/culty bullshit that is what people hate about reddit, that there’s basically just a cool kids club that doesn’t actually follow any rules with any consistency, and just acts as a kind of Mean Girls squad, exiling and censoring people … basically for annoying them or making fools of them.

          Its middle school mentality. Vibes based moderation. Censorship by popularity contest, where only the cool kids get to vote on that.

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              16 days ago

              Welp I didn’t bother to check that, but … yeah.

              Very normal, typical active user behavior right there, lol.

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                And she’s downvoting us for calling it out. I’m willing to bet she’ll be offline again by the end of the week.

                Edit: hey she’s already turned off her account after 2 days! New record.

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                  14 days ago

                  oh that was me downvoting you. rather than address anything she said you two were sneering at her for agreeing with me and saying she’s on an alt account.

                  absolutely toxic behavior from you specifically 90% of the time, tbh I tend to toss you one when I see you on general principle.

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                  15 days ago

                  More bad faith bullshit, I downvoted you one time in this post “She won’t acknowledge shit.” You two are so dogmatic about tankies you are attacking me because I disagree with your boys club

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            15 days ago

            That is exactly the kind of hivemind/culty bullshit that is what people hate about reddit, that there’s basically just a cool kids club that doesn’t actually follow any rules with any consistency, and just acts as a kind of Mean Girls squad, exiling and censoring people … basically for annoying them or making fools of them.

            Its middle school mentality. Vibes based moderation. Censorship by popularity contest, where only the cool kids get to vote on that.

            You could easily be referring to all the people raging about ‘the tankie triad’ with this.

            The vast majority of the time I look at someone complaining about getting censored on .ml they were either being bigoted or insulting people.

            As for vibes based moderation and censoring people for actions in other places, I got banned from quokk.au by their admin for ‘brigading’ because I cross-linked to a db0 thread complaining about the OPs mod actions. ‘brigading’ is nowhere in the site rules for quokk.au as far as I’m aware. I am also the only person to have ever been banned by quokk.au in this way so far.

            I was banned for ‘homophobia’ by OP because I complained about his post having a misogynistic title.

            You are literally the one defending a powermod who bans people in retaliation, because they got banned from one comm that they clearly despise for being a toxic asshole.

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            15 days ago

            My position is that if you don’t like a community then you should not go there to be disruptive. When someone continues to disrupt a community that they dislike it is within the moderators duties to stop that. I support the moderators on divisionbyzero who use that to curate positive communities, just the other day another moderator made a now locked post saying they do the exact same thing complained about by the OP. I also have a reply from Diva saying that the OP has done this same action so I stand by my PTB statement.

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              15 days ago

              Ok so you’re missing the entire basis point of why this is absurd.

              They got banned from a comm they’d never been to, never posted in… because they were apparently ‘spamming’.

              You… can’t have spammed a community that you’ve never made a post or comment in.

              … Also, you say you stand by your PTB statement?

              Your original statement, the inciting thing for this whole comment chain… is you issuing a YDI verdict.

              Not a PTB verdict.

              Those two are basically total opposites.

              … Are you confused?

              Like, just generally?

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                14 days ago

                Ok so you’re missing the entire basis point of why this is absurd.

                a basis point is a finance unit for 1/100th of a percent, you could just drop the ‘basis’ and your sentence would make sense.

                really funny that you started your whole diatribe about her being confused by botching your own word usage. congratulations

                I don’t really care about butchering the english language, so don’t come at me. usually I treat it with the respect it deserves, which is none. the irony, however, was excellent

                I got banned from 27 communities on quokk.au for something which is not in their rules, because they were simply justifying retaliation against me for calling the OP out.

                I don’t think this is a principled complaint that you have.

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                  14 days ago

                  Stop acting like you’re innocent.

                  They banned you for brigading after you posted links on hexbear directing users to a post you had made about OP.

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                    13 days ago

                    She supports left unity when anarchists are attacked but not when they defend from AuthComs. She always defends them but not us.

                    Edit: “I defend anarchists, I just mod a place that hates them and defend Hexbear and Dengists and everyone but anyone more individualist than Lenin. And calling out user actions is sexist.”

                    I’m not “feeling attacked”, I’m calling out bad faith from someone who always defends the aggressor.

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                    14 days ago

                    please direct me to where anything about ‘brigading’ is mentioned in their rules. it’s vibes based bullshit, they banned me because I made a post about their mod acting like an asshole and they went looking for an excuse.

                    they site banned me for a singular link in a comment on a thread, not even to their site. meanwhile the OP is acting like a martyr for getting a singular comm ban

                    you moderate for them though, so I can see why you would be inclined to defend their behavior