Benjamin Tisch’s shot at Mamdani during the Met Council gala comes just two weeks after his sister accepted Mamdani’s offer to remain at the helm of the NYPD.

“The two of us will not shy away from the fact that we hold disagreements on certain issues … but I also believe that these disagreements are not only reconcilable, but they are the sign of a healthy partnership to come,” the mayor-elect said in an interview with The News last month.

These are the kind of ghouls you want to work with if your plan is to sabotage yourself out of the gate. clown gun-hubris

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    When are prominent Jews going to speak up against Israel, the Zionists, fash with these talking points, or even say a single critical thing?

    The libs love their two state solution, their both sides nonsense, right? So when will they standup? Now? Never?

    And it’s going to be up to us to save them when they have their faces eaten by the leopards, isn’t it? Save them when all the marginalized people will have already been gassed, when there will even bigger existential problems to face I’m sure

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      Some do, but a majority of Jewish institutions have been captured by zionist influence.

      My partner’s father said his school switched from teaching Yiddish to “modern hebrew” when he was a kid. It was an effort to replace Jewish culture and heritage into a bastardized language for a state that is younger than my grandmother.

      This was all by design. The zionist entity spent massive amounts of resources to influence Jewish institutions across the US to promote the zionist ideology, overall it was a success. Polling consistently shows a significant amount of western Jews (86%, IIRC) have unconditional support for the zionist entity.

      This has probably dropped since last year, and anti-zionist institutions are gaining traction, denouncing zionist ethnic cleansing (“not in our name”, etc.), but I have also seen a significant amount of “October 8th Jews” who became radicalized by the zionist ideology post 10/7.

      Jewish individuals like Madea Benjamin, Norm Finklestein, Max Blumenthal, etc. have all been consistent with their anti-zionist rhetoric for decades, but over the past 2 years I don’t think it matters what Jewish people’s opinions are anyways. There are more zionist evangelicals in Amerikkka than there are Jewish. If the metric flipped, where 86% of Jewish Westerners became anti-zionist overnight, I doubt the US government would change their stance on supplying the zionist entity with weapons. Protests don’t do anything, the Vietnam-War protests did nothing, the protests against the Afghanistan and Iraq wars did nothing. Non-violent protests are a pressure release valve for agitated individuals to scream their hearts out into the sky before returning to the status-quo.

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        Many of those who do are prominent outside of Jewish communities (as in, prominent in general) because of their left-wing politics (some because of their anti-Israel activism, like Professor Finkelstein). It seems like Jewish institutions are dominated by Zionists - not surprising, they have all the funding and CIA backing. A similar thing happened with Ukrainian community institutions in the diaspora.

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          I don’t think there’s a single antizionist Jewish organization of meaningful size. The best you get is mealy mouthed twostatism or “peace for all” energy, never addressing the colonial nature of the state

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            Jewish Voice for Peace has 750,000 supporters. Is that not a meaningful size?

            Edit: changed “members” to “supporters” based on their annual report

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                  I didn’t say they were zionists (though I see I may have inadvertently implied it - not intentionally, sorry), I said they take no stance on Palestinian statehood. IIRC neither does BDS. It’s just not part of the purpose/tactics of JVP, who are an organization for American Jews to oppose American support for “Israel”.

                  Edit: coming back to this comment, you didn’t say that I called them zionists so it’s slightly beside the point as a direct reply to you. My bad.

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                    I feel like this thread has evolved into a different conversation - I commented above because someone said there is no prominent Jew saying a single critical thing of Israel and Zionism (patently false). Then someone said there is not a single anti-zionist Jewish organization of meaningful size (also patently false). Now the question is whether they take a stance on Palestinian statehood, which I don’t know how you can be anti-Zionist and explicitly in support of the movement led by Palestinians and interpret that as “no stance on a Palestinian state” but that is a much more nuanced question that I think it worthy of nuanced discussion (which I appreciate your comments trying to be more particular like that) but that conversation is miles away from “not a single Jew opposes Zionism” and “there are no anti-Zionist Jewish organizations.”

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          Yeah, in the US, the “Jewish institutions” of the 20th century all were or became Zionist institutions over time, so if anyone prominent within them turns on Israel, they get systematically excluded from institutional life. Which happens all the time.