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    Right, these court records of “someone” saying he is? Or the court records that had a stay of deportation?

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      The court records where 2 separate judges saw all the evidence, including confidential information which prove his gang affiliation. Not just one judge - 2 separate ones.

      The invocation of the illegal alien act overrides the stay of deportation, hence why he was deported.

      Right, these court records of “someone” saying he is?

      If a confidential informant, or say an undercover agent inside MS13, says that he is a MS13 member, would you believe it? Would you want that confidential informant or undercover agent to have to blow their cover, their job, and risk their life in order to get a single low level gang member deported?

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        Except the us isn’t at war, so he shouldn’t have been deported. Trump’s government had no right to deport him based on the stay of deportation, sooooo he shouldn’t have been deported for being a “gang” member because the stay of deportation wouldn’t have happened if he was in ms13.

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          Except the us isn’t at war, so he shouldn’t have been deported.

          Except they ruled that they are at war with MS13, so he could lawfully be deported along with all the others.

          Trump’s government had no right to deport him based on the stay of deportation

          Already explained - the illegal alien act.

          the stay of deportation wouldn’t have happened if he was in ms13.

          Incorrect. The stay really only happened because he is MS13 - it was given precisely because they concluded that MS13’s rival gang would seek him out and harm him if he was deported.

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            Except they ruled that they are at war with MS13, so he could lawfully be deported along with all the others.

            Whoa! Congress declared a state of war?

            Already explained - the illegal alien act

            Which, again, not at war.

            Incorrect. The stay really only happened because he is MS13 - it was given precisely because they concluded that MS13’s rival gang would seek him out and harm him if he was deported.

            Funny that, i thought ms13 were super dangerous, why would they not only stop him from being deported, but also let him be free,

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              Congress declared a state of war?

              Alien Enemies Act. Google it.

              Which, again, not at war.

              Alien Enemies Act. Google it.

              why would they not only stop him from being deported

              Because activist judges.

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                  It requires a declaration of war. Only Congress can do that.

                  It does not. As I suggested to the other person - Google it. It does not require a declaration of war:

                  “The Alien Enemies Act of 1798 allows the U.S. President to detain or deport individuals from enemy nations during wartime or in response to threats against the U.S.

                  Furthermore, people being legally deported under that act have protections

                  Which of the protections you linked to do you think were not followed? Here they are from your own link:

                  “When an alien who becomes liable as an enemy, in the manner prescribed in section 21 of this title, is not chargeable with actual hostility, or other crime against the public safety, he shall be allowed, for the recovery, disposal, and removal of his goods and effects, and for his departure, the full time which is or shall be stipulated by any treaty then in force between the United States and the hostile nation or government of which he is a native citizen, denizen, or subject; and where no such treaty exists, or is in force, the President may ascertain and declare such reasonable time as may be consistent with the public safety, and according to the dictates of humanity and national hospitality.”

                  What treaty is in force between the United States and El Salvador? What does it state? If no such treaty exists, the President decides.

                  So, this is all illegal, and you need to read up on things you no nothing about.

                  The irony is just so, so delicious.

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                    Can you read?

                    The actual text, from the beginning:

                    Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government

                    Don’t come at me with opinions of meaning. I gave you the actual text.

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                Alien Enemies Act. Google it.

                Yes, not at war, nor is there an invasion

                Alien Enemies Act. Google it.

                Yes again, not at war, nor is there an invasion

                Because activist judges

                Yes activist judges, like the ones who wanted him deported? Or are they only activist judges when it goes against your views?

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                  Alien Enemies Act. Google it.

                  Yes activist judges, like the ones who wanted him deported?

                  You think it’s only activist judges that order illegal immigrants to be deported? To be clear - he wasn’t ordered to be deported because he was determined to be MS13. He was ordered to be deported because he was an illegal immigrant.

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                    Alien Enemies Act. Google it.

                    Yes the wartime Act? Is the us at war?

                    You think it’s only activist judges that order illegal immigrants to be deported?

                    No i never said that hahahaha

                    To be clear - he wasn’t ordered to be deported because he was determined to be MS13. He was ordered to be deported because he was an illegal immigrant.

                    Oh so, the stay of deportation was perfectly fine, not by an “activist” judge.