The problem is the settler colonialist part, not the genetic part. Let’s say that some swedish woman moved to palestine to marry her palestinian fiance and they start a family there, integrating with the palestinian community. Would her grandchildren need to leave Palestine, because she’s not “pure”?
If the ashkenazi migrants would have learned arabic and peacefully coexisted with the palestinians without starting an ethno-nationalist project, they wouldn’t be settler-colonialists.
If the ashkenazi migrants would have learned arabic and peacefully coexisted with the palestinians without starting an ethno-nationalist project, they wouldn’t be settler-colonialists.
Yes that’s a good if and you’re right that the FACT that Israelis did not come from Palestine ( https://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Maps/Story571.html ) is not the main horrible evil issue of Israel and Palestine today; it is as you said the ethnic cleansing of palestinains and Israel becoming a genocidal ethnostate and a Jewish-supremacy aparthied.
If you click on the link above, you will read in 1947 there was 2% jewish population who were granted 7% of Palestine, then after Nakba of 1948, the zionists massacred and displaced 80% of Palestinains out and took over 70% of their country too.
So the “if” we are dealing with in reality is that if they claimed their ancestors are semitic and have the right to return to their land all while their country heavily bans DNA testings, and bans actual Palestinains whom all their ancestors were born there from coming back until this day, then give a jewish guy from Poland or anywhere in the world the right to come to Palestine and claim dual citizenship and land from a Palestinian family who lived there for hundrends of years before their ethnostate was even created.
So to counter this zionist narrative, we are willing to test it and expose it, too. No where here did we make it facist saying “you did not come from here, get out.” That is not our argument. Our argument exposes another zionist bs justification for their genocidal ethnic cleansing which was made up through unverifible untestable bs religious beliefs “God promised us all this land 3000 years ago which had no people, and it is for people without land .” when history and DNA testings alone expose it to be the BS Zionist narrative that it is made up to hide its actual colonist land grabing project truth
No where here did we make it facist saying “you did not come from here, get out.” That is not our argument.
I disagree. I think that’s a core assumend premise of the video. Otherwise, the statement that Bibi’s from Poland doesn’t make any coherent sense as an argument.
I disagree with the complete “blood and soil” premise that zionism is based on. But I critisize bs logic, no matter which camp it stated.
I understand you, and even the two-state solution itself does not ask for Israelis to go back where they came from no. The hope is for them to live in peace side by side, and stop the genocidal jewish-supremacy.
I think that’s a core assumend premise of the video. Otherwise, the statement that Bibi’s from Poland doesn’t make any coherent sense.
Bro, it does make coherent sense; read my previous comment. It is to expose the Zionist bs narrative that it’s their ancestors land 3000 yrs ago promised by god. And here where I disagree with you that you refuse to scoop low to their bs logic to prove it wrong. I’m willing to do that.
I really wish you have a good day. I really think we agree on more than what we disgree.
Small correction, not relevant to the other commenter.
The two-state solution still implies an apartheid structure and in fact is exactly what has led to what we are witnessing today. A single state, where all people enjoy equal rights; where Palestinians are represented in the state, allowed to return to their homeland, and receive reparations; should be what we are looking towards as the most stable end to this violence. There will not be extended peace as long as there is land reserved to remain as a zionist ethnostate.
To show they are settler colonists and not natives.
That’s a cultural, not a genetic argument.
The problem is the settler colonialist part, not the genetic part. Let’s say that some swedish woman moved to palestine to marry her palestinian fiance and they start a family there, integrating with the palestinian community. Would her grandchildren need to leave Palestine, because she’s not “pure”?
If the ashkenazi migrants would have learned arabic and peacefully coexisted with the palestinians without starting an ethno-nationalist project, they wouldn’t be settler-colonialists.
Yes that’s a good if and you’re right that the FACT that Israelis did not come from Palestine ( https://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Maps/Story571.html ) is not the main horrible evil issue of Israel and Palestine today; it is as you said the ethnic cleansing of palestinains and Israel becoming a genocidal ethnostate and a Jewish-supremacy aparthied.
If you click on the link above, you will read in 1947 there was 2% jewish population who were granted 7% of Palestine, then after Nakba of 1948, the zionists massacred and displaced 80% of Palestinains out and took over 70% of their country too.
So the “if” we are dealing with in reality is that if they claimed their ancestors are semitic and have the right to return to their land all while their country heavily bans DNA testings, and bans actual Palestinains whom all their ancestors were born there from coming back until this day, then give a jewish guy from Poland or anywhere in the world the right to come to Palestine and claim dual citizenship and land from a Palestinian family who lived there for hundrends of years before their ethnostate was even created.
So to counter this zionist narrative, we are willing to test it and expose it, too. No where here did we make it facist saying “you did not come from here, get out.” That is not our argument. Our argument exposes another zionist bs justification for their genocidal ethnic cleansing which was made up through unverifible untestable bs religious beliefs “God promised us all this land 3000 years ago which had no people, and it is for people without land .” when history and DNA testings alone expose it to be the BS Zionist narrative that it is made up to hide its actual colonist land grabing project truth
I disagree. I think that’s a core assumend premise of the video. Otherwise, the statement that Bibi’s from Poland doesn’t make any coherent sense as an argument.
I disagree with the complete “blood and soil” premise that zionism is based on. But I critisize bs logic, no matter which camp it stated.
I understand you, and even the two-state solution itself does not ask for Israelis to go back where they came from no. The hope is for them to live in peace side by side, and stop the genocidal jewish-supremacy.
Bro, it does make coherent sense; read my previous comment. It is to expose the Zionist bs narrative that it’s their ancestors land 3000 yrs ago promised by god. And here where I disagree with you that you refuse to scoop low to their bs logic to prove it wrong. I’m willing to do that.
I really wish you have a good day. I really think we agree on more than what we disgree.
Small correction, not relevant to the other commenter.
The two-state solution still implies an apartheid structure and in fact is exactly what has led to what we are witnessing today. A single state, where all people enjoy equal rights; where Palestinians are represented in the state, allowed to return to their homeland, and receive reparations; should be what we are looking towards as the most stable end to this violence. There will not be extended peace as long as there is land reserved to remain as a zionist ethnostate.
Yes but then there wouldn’t be millions of them.
This is like wondering why there are so many white people in South Africa during Apartheid
Again: you fail to point out what genetics has to do with this. Don’t use fascist talking points. Period.
The crux of the Israeli argument is that they have a high genetic connection to the land which gives them a ‘right to return’.
If they use a Fascist talking point for colonization it needs to be addressed and debunked. Period.
You’re not debunking it by accepting the premise. You’re validating it, in fact.
Don’t play the fascist’s games.They’ll drag you down to their level.