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    2 days ago

    It will matter. Even if the leadership is backward as shit, those guys still need engineers, doctors and other skilled workers.

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        2 days ago

        In a lot of ways, I fear that won’t be true and it’ll be held up as a shitty example of why misogyny ‘works’

        Case in point, they can still sell their opium for a lot of money and use that money to bring in engineers from SEAsia that will risk it for the big money they’re being promised.

        They can bring in nurses, etc with the same money, it’s a LOT of a money and unlike Oil, there isn’t a ‘opidollar’ like the ‘petrodollar’

        It’s despressing that the right might run and win this shit, I’m just so tired of it.

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          I hope for all our sakes that you’re wrong, but who knows. I personally dont think importing skilled slave labour is a winning strategy long term, disgruntled engineers aren’t going to be doing their best work.

          The other problem is that no matter how bad it goes, they can spend the next 15-20 years blaming their problems on the Americans, so itll be a while before any real introspection occurs.

          Absolutely agree how depressing this all is. :(

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        Id argue it’s gonna be much better than when america and NATO came to “civilize” them, or the russians came before that or the Brits came even before that. Afghanistan requires Change, but real change happens within, by the people, not fucking “white saviours”

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          Absolutely, they have to fix their own problems. But we have seen how the change has gone since the US left, and so far its not been on positive path.

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            1 day ago

            Tourism is currently booming, people are coming back to Afghanistan and that alone is a massive change, it’s restructuring what it is decades of drug trafficking for finance to tourism for finance. My friend no offense, but I don’t think you know anything about Afghanistan bar what is said on some major corporate media conglomeration owned by Peter thiel or some shit

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              1 day ago

              Booming?

              https://www.afghanembassy.au/art-and-culture/travel-and-tourism.html - This claims 20k per year, with the peak being in the 1970s at 90k.

              Antarctica claims 80k in one year: https://iaato.org/news-room/data-statistics

              If those sources are too biased, feel free to supply your own.

              Either way, when the entire countries women and girls are unable to access education, a small bump to tourism doesnt quite add up to a net positive in my eyes.

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                First of of all 1970s isn’t when america, Britian or Russia were occupying Afghanistan, it was free and had a democratic leader. Todays Taliban while the new leaders aren’t free from influence of america. The Taliban are the offshoots/successors of the mujahedeen a fundamentalist and extremist organization funded by America to fight against Russia who then afterwards were so funded in comparison to the rest of Afghanistan that they took power. But if you couldn’t understand these basic facts how am I going to explain to you internal political pressure that comes with tourism, money flowing and educated people returning to a regime and their ideals. I don’t support the Taliban but I support they are the current free leaders of Afghanistan and somehow they are leading better than “free world” that funded these extreme bigots stopping girls from going schools and the massive drug fields