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  • A lot of Indian nationalists like Bose critically supported the Nazis against the genocidal British empire, so they wouldn’t be holding up “neither Berlin nor London” signs neither. Bose recruited from Indian POWs captured by Axis armies with the goal of overthrowing the British Raj. And he did give the Soviet Union a chance, but Nazi Germany proved to be more anti-British than the Soviets at the time, so he threw his hat with the Nazis. When the Nazis started to get owned by the Soviets, he pivoted towards the Japanese.

    In general, I don’t think it’s wrong for colonized peoples to seek alliances with otherwise unsavory parties for the sake of overthrowing their colonizers so long as that alliance of convenience actually proves to be fruitful. People like Bose get a bad rap because he critically supported German and Japanese fascists who would go on to lose making him a fool for allying with the eventual losers, but you get the reverse like Fanon joining the French Resistance only to see how French people treated Nazi POWs better than African colonial troops like him who did all the fighting. The colonized are treated like shit for joining the “right” side and get shit on for joining the “wrong” side.

    Therefore, the proper course of action is to support whatever side that is either most fruitful towards national liberation or the easiest to overthrow when the time comes. That’s what the Vietnamese did. They more or less suspended their national liberation struggle against the French when the Japanese invaded Indochina because Ho Chi Minh reasoned that out of the major players that the Vietnamese could ally themselves with (the Japanese, the French, the Chinese), the French was by far the most pathetic and therefore easiest to overthrow, so the Vietnamese national liberation struggle loses the least through ceding ground back to the French instead of conceding to the Japanese or the Chinese. “We form a united front with the French to combat against fascism” is PR. “Ho Chi Minh is a traitor for collaborating with the French” is useless moralizing.


  • Even a casual understanding of WWII repudiates campism as a critique worth taking seriously. The vast majority of people who aren’t fascists support the Allies over the Axis, which is just “campism” since virtually none of those people think both the West and the Soviet Union are worthy of uncritical or even critical support. To be a non-campist, you basically have to support neither the Allies nor the Axis. In other words, neither London nor Berlin nor Moscow nor Tokyo. The Axis at least had ideological consistency through fascism, but the Allies literally had nothing in common with one another outside of opposing the Axis. Literally just an alliance of convenience, an anti-Axis camp if you will.