Where are people getting this Lord of the Rings-ass idea? Russia doesn’t want to absorb Ukraine because
A) They do not want to be responsible for tamping down decades of Banderite insurgencies, and
B) Doing so would mean that they now share a vulnerable border with a NATO member which is, and I cannot stress this enough, most of the reason they went into Ukraine in the first place.
What they actually want is a buffer zone in the form of a demilitarized Ukraine. The Donbas Republics have voted to join the Russian Federation, so they’re not going back to Ukranian control, but western Ukraine is far more strategically beneficial to them as a rump state.
Did you read anything I said? They do not want to be responsible for dealing with the shambles that Ukraine has become. It benefits them far more to let that be Europe’s burden
It doesn’t matter what the Ukranian government wants or doesnt want, they’ve lost the war. If you don’t like it, take it up with the nazis in charge or the Americans who put them there in the 2014 Maidan coup and told them they could win. The Ukranian people overwhelmingly want peace. There were so many offramps before this point, and the US puppet government refused all of them, so now here we are learning an object lesson in why diplomacy is preferable to belligerence.
You have an eleven year old’s idea of how and why wars happen, and a fourteen year old’s habit of retreating to moody sarcasm when you realize you’re out of your depth in an argument.
Where are people getting this Lord of the Rings-ass idea? Russia doesn’t want to absorb Ukraine because
A) They do not want to be responsible for tamping down decades of Banderite insurgencies, and
B) Doing so would mean that they now share a vulnerable border with a NATO member which is, and I cannot stress this enough, most of the reason they went into Ukraine in the first place.
What they actually want is a buffer zone in the form of a demilitarized Ukraine. The Donbas Republics have voted to join the Russian Federation, so they’re not going back to Ukranian control, but western Ukraine is far more strategically beneficial to them as a rump state.
“Nah they don’t want to take over, they just want to make it into a weak country they totally control”
Lmao that’s great I wonder why Ukraine doesn’t go for that
Did you read anything I said? They do not want to be responsible for dealing with the shambles that Ukraine has become. It benefits them far more to let that be Europe’s burden
It doesn’t matter what the Ukranian government wants or doesnt want, they’ve lost the war. If you don’t like it, take it up with the nazis in charge or the Americans who put them there in the 2014 Maidan coup and told them they could win. The Ukranian people overwhelmingly want peace. There were so many offramps before this point, and the US puppet government refused all of them, so now here we are learning an object lesson in why diplomacy is preferable to belligerence.
Tsundere Russia, it’s not like it even wants to control Ukraine, baka.
You have an eleven year old’s idea of how and why wars happen, and a fourteen year old’s habit of retreating to moody sarcasm when you realize you’re out of your depth in an argument.
Don’t be upset, it was just a joke
I mean at some point it makes sense to recognize that the conversation isn’t going anywhere
Yes, it stopped going anywhere the moment you decided to stop it. I brought facts, you brought snide cope and deflection disguised as jokes🤷♂️